Kilometers or Miles?

General cycling advice ( NOT technical ! )
Jdsk
Posts: 28024
Joined: 5 Mar 2019, 5:42pm

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by Jdsk »

DaveReading wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 5:57pm
Jdsk wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 1:03pmPS: The SI symbol for the watt is an uppercase W. I don't know why it's so often written as lowercase.
The capital letter of course reflects the fact that the unit is named after a person.

Fortunately ee cummings wasn't a scientist or engineer.
Do people write the symbol as w rather than W because the unit is the watt?

Jonathan

PS: Is the mehitabel a multiple of the bel? : - )
sjs
Posts: 1444
Joined: 24 Jan 2010, 10:08pm
Location: Hitchin

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by sjs »

The babybel certainly is.
rareposter
Posts: 3260
Joined: 27 Aug 2014, 2:40pm

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by rareposter »

Jdsk wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 6:09pm Do people write the symbol as w rather than W because the unit is the watt?
The what?

;-)
Bmblbzzz
Posts: 7125
Joined: 18 May 2012, 7:56pm
Location: From here to there.

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by Bmblbzzz »

A mehitabel is one million tabels, or tables, which is an extremely large refectory.

We all know about the millihelen (mH) don't we?
Jdsk
Posts: 28024
Joined: 5 Mar 2019, 5:42pm

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by Jdsk »

Bmblbzzz wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 6:25pm ...
We all know about the millihelen (mH) don't we?
Is that the origin of Troy weight?

; - )

Jonathan
drossall
Posts: 6420
Joined: 5 Jan 2007, 10:01pm
Location: North Hertfordshire

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by drossall »

On the original theme of this thread, did anyone see this on Facebook? Describes me exactly. Sorry if it's been posted already and I've missed it.
Attachments
FB_IMG_1700815465818.jpg
jimlews
Posts: 1657
Joined: 11 Jun 2015, 8:36pm
Location: Not the end of the world.

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by jimlews »

Before retirement I used to have a customer with a colourful turn of phrase.
EG.
If a close clearance was required it was specified as "just a gnat's cock".
From the same source: "an Ickie" was a ( I think) universal unit of currency.
DaveReading
Posts: 788
Joined: 24 Feb 2019, 5:37pm

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by DaveReading »

Jdsk wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 6:09pm
DaveReading wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 5:57pm
Jdsk wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 1:03pmPS: The SI symbol for the watt is an uppercase W. I don't know why it's so often written as lowercase.
The capital letter of course reflects the fact that the unit is named after a person.

Fortunately ee cummings wasn't a scientist or engineer.
Do people write the symbol as w rather than W because the unit is the watt?

Jonathan
Well you told us earlier that you didn't know why. Good to see that you've formulated a theory in the meantime. :D
User avatar
plancashire
Posts: 989
Joined: 22 Apr 2007, 10:49am
Location: Düsseldorf, Germany

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by plancashire »

Jdsk wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 9:58am
Bmblbzzz wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 9:50am I always do a calculation from litres to milage to get mpg too.

When I used to drive a lot (back way back in the 90s) I used to calculate it in miles per litre. It seemed by far the most logical unit to me, as the odometer was in miles and petrol sold by the litre.
Which reminds me: apart from the different units the Continental system for describing fuel consumption of road vehicles also works the other way round, in L/100 km.

Conversion of a value to the UK system of mpg then requires some sort of reciprocal, an enormously more difficult task for mental arithmetic than anything proportional.

Jonathan
MPG is another example of an inverted UK unit where smaller MPG means bigger fuel consumption. This would be fine if MPG were used as a measure of range, but it isn't: it is used as a measure of fuel economy and is thus an inverted concept.
I am NOT a cyclist. I enjoy riding a bike for utility, commuting, fitness and touring on tout terrain Rohloff, Brompton ML3 (2004) and Wester Ross 354 plus a Burley Travoy trailer.
User avatar
plancashire
Posts: 989
Joined: 22 Apr 2007, 10:49am
Location: Düsseldorf, Germany

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by plancashire »

Jdsk wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 6:28pm
Bmblbzzz wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 6:25pm ...
We all know about the millihelen (mH) don't we?
Is that the origin of Troy weight?

; - )

Jonathan
No, it's someone else called Henry I believe. You can prove this by induction. :D
I am NOT a cyclist. I enjoy riding a bike for utility, commuting, fitness and touring on tout terrain Rohloff, Brompton ML3 (2004) and Wester Ross 354 plus a Burley Travoy trailer.
keyboardmonkey
Posts: 1164
Joined: 1 Dec 2009, 5:05pm
Location: Yorkshire

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by keyboardmonkey »

Anyway... I have my Garmin set to Imperial because my pre-decimal mind thinks in terms of mph and I can see how I'm doing if I'm (rarely these days) riding some sort of timed event, or if I'm on a curfew and need to check on my pace, perhaps to cut short the route if I'm not pootling along quickly enough.

My Garmin Connect account displays data in Imperial, but my Strava account is set to km. I like to have it this way so that I can make an easy comparison between routes. For instance, on a 100km ride I can see how much elevation I have ridden. If it's more than 1km then I know it's a bit lumpy (for me and my area anyway).
Bmblbzzz
Posts: 7125
Joined: 18 May 2012, 7:56pm
Location: From here to there.

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by Bmblbzzz »

plancashire wrote: 25 Nov 2023, 10:06am
Jdsk wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 6:28pm
Bmblbzzz wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 6:25pm ...
We all know about the millihelen (mH) don't we?
Is that the origin of Troy weight?

; - )

Jonathan
No, it's someone else called Henry I believe. You can prove this by induction. :D
It's the amount of beauty needed to launch one ship.
Bmblbzzz
Posts: 7125
Joined: 18 May 2012, 7:56pm
Location: From here to there.

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by Bmblbzzz »

drossall wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 7:06pm On the original theme of this thread, did anyone see this on Facebook? Describes me exactly. Sorry if it's been posted already and I've missed it.
Stones and lbs for weight of people? Only really common among those in their 60s and older, I'd have said. There's regional variety too though.
ANTONISH
Posts: 3214
Joined: 26 Mar 2009, 9:49am

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by ANTONISH »

Bmblbzzz wrote: 27 Nov 2023, 10:14am
drossall wrote: 24 Nov 2023, 7:06pm On the original theme of this thread, did anyone see this on Facebook? Describes me exactly. Sorry if it's been posted already and I've missed it.
Stones and lbs for weight of people? Only really common among those in their 60s and older, I'd have said. There's regional variety too though.
I usually found that teenage students would profess to have no knowledge of imperial units.
When asked their height and weight the vast majority gave their weight in stones and pounds and height in feet and inches.
They usually didn't know the metric equivalent.
David2504
Posts: 131
Joined: 11 Mar 2021, 5:29pm

Re: Kilometers or Miles?

Post by David2504 »

Does it matter? Use whatever unit tickles your fancy
Post Reply