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Re: hand issues on longer trips
Posted: 22 May 2024, 9:13pm
by Freeweel
531colin wrote: ↑22 May 2024, 9:06pm
Shifting the saddle FORWARD will throw MORE weight onto your hands.
To take weight OFF your hands the saddle needs to go BACK …. Maybe with a shorter stem to reduce reach
How does that work?? Surely, taken to extreme, sitting entirely upright would be all weight on the saddle, whilst riding in press up position would be max weight on the hands? Appreciating of course that neither position is really achievable, doesn't this suggest that moving saddle forward and becoming more upright, means less weight on the hands? Sorry, not trying to start a futile argument, genuinely trying to understand...
Re: hand issues on longer trips
Posted: 22 May 2024, 10:13pm
by Paulatic
Freeweel wrote: ↑22 May 2024, 9:13pm
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How does that work??
One word..
Counterbalance.
See here
https://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/bi ... oad-bikes/
Re: hand issues on longer trips
Posted: 22 May 2024, 10:54pm
by 531colin
Stand up straight and lean forward from your hips to hold an imaginary handlebar; you will pitch forward.
Now do it again, but this time stick your bum out the back and you won’t pitch forward.
Alternately just try it on the bike!
Re: hand issues on longer trips
Posted: 22 May 2024, 10:55pm
by Freeweel
So I almost got lost at 'tibial tuberosity over pedal axle' but perseverance and beer are wonderful things. I think I get it. Thank you for the pointers, the source material, and the tuition. Tools are coming back out tomorrow. It's complicated, this stuff, no?!
Re: hand issues on longer trips
Posted: 23 May 2024, 8:09am
by 531colin
I don’t think it’s complicated as such; you can work it all out for yourself given an open mind, enough time to experiment and a reasonable degree of awareness of where your body is and whether or not you are in balance and working efficiently.
But you can’t think your way to a comfortable position any more than you can think your way to riding a bike round a bend.
There is no logical explanation for KOPS (knee over pedal spindle) it’s just a rule of thumb that generations of cyclists have found useful. As you asked for advice, and advice was forthcoming I reckon the sensible course is to try following the advice.
There is far more advice on the internet than any one man could follow in just one lifetime. My DIY bike fit piece (below) is deliberately simple, and a couple of people have been kind enough to say they found it useful.
