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Yes there are, but they're much, much lower than the processed foods that you might otherwise eat. Even a higher calorie vegetable, such as sweetcorn, has only 86kcal per 100g
Just a note, especially taking into account possible diabetes is ....853 wrote: ↑24 May 2024, 1:32pmYes there are, but they're much, much lower than the processed foods that you might otherwise eat. Even a higher calorie vegetable, such as sweetcorn, has only 86kcal per 100g
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_corn
Neither I or briansnail mentioned fruit, which generally has more calories than veg
Absolutely true.Pinhead wrote: ↑24 May 2024, 2:50pm Just a note, especially taking into account possible diabetes is ....
Corn is rich in fiber and plant compounds that may aid digestive and eye health. Yet, it's high in starch, can spike blood sugar and may prevent weight loss when consumed in excess. The safety of genetically modified corn may also be a concern. Still, in moderation, corn can be part of a healthy diet.
Yup, fruit & veg, particularly veg, is just about the lowest calorie food there is, so pretty much anything you can eat instead will increase your calorie intake, and as most people aren't getting the recommended 30 different types of F&V a week, further restricting variety isn't a good idea either. That said, if you were to try to get all the calories you need from veg alone, you'd need a stomach the size of a gorillas. I average over 8 portions of F&V a day, and as much as 12 some days, but in total, that still only accounts for 22% of my total calorie intake.853 wrote: ↑24 May 2024, 1:32pmYes there are, but they're much, much lower than the processed foods that you might otherwise eat. Even a higher calorie vegetable, such as sweetcorn, has only 86kcal per 100g
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_corn
Neither I or briansnail mentioned fruit, which generally has more calories than veg
You can't exercise your way out of a bad diet eg by cycling. Get your diet/nutrition right then exercise.JerseyJoe wrote: ↑23 May 2024, 12:47am I'd like to start a thread for members experience of trying to lose weight either for or by cycling. My own experience saw me lose 10kg in 18 months, weight which I've been able to keep stable for the past 12 years without too much effort or thought. I'm not particularly tall (5'9") and about a decade or so so I was obese. I didn't really know it, or understand the deleterious effects on my health, not until the cliche of catching yourself in a holiday photo. I was fat!
I'd like to caveat the thread by saying this really isn't about dieting, but more about what you eat, when you eat it and how much cycling can play a part in regulating and controlling both your weight and the food (and drink!) you consume.
There's lots of discussion of "keto"diets in previous threads. There just isn't enough evidence about their effects.MelW wrote: ↑27 May 2024, 6:13am ...
You can't exercise your way out of a bad diet eg by cycling. Get your diet/nutrition right then exercise.
The best diet is the Keto diet where you eat low carb lots of green cruciferous non starchy veg and salad with meat, eggs and oily fish. Cut out all sugar, starch and processed foods which pretty much involves all wheat, bread, pasta, potatoes, pies, pizza, biscuits, cakes, breakfast cereal, PORRIDGE. No alcohol either. Do intermittent fasting, eat OMAD. Do HIIT, Yoga, calisthenics and weights.The weight will fall off you and you will become lean and strong. Your sugar cravings will disappear. You will find that when you ride, you will be much fitter as you are lighter, that you can ride further and faster and you don't get so fatigued.
)Given that traditional keto diets for therapy were often based on 75% fats, 20% protein and 5% carbs, you could can consume a decent amount of calories easily from the fats.Cyclothesist wrote: ↑28 May 2024, 1:02pm The massive restriction on carbohydrates makes it pretty tricky to consume an excess of calories. I suspect that calorie restriction side effect is responsible for at least some of the weight loss. I'd think I'd soon get fed up with leaves and meat for every meal including breakfast. (I don't like or eat eggs unless they've been turned into cake)
I'd go with that, most people won't know how many calories they're eating most of the time, so they will go by what it looks like, what they think it contains, and how full they feel. As I said above, you'd need a huge stomach to get enough calories from fruit & veg alone. 2500 calories of carrot & onion weigh 6kg, 2500 calories of aubergine & courgette weigh 12.5kg, I don't see many people being able to put that lot away.Cyclothesist wrote: ↑28 May 2024, 1:02pm The massive restriction on carbohydrates makes it pretty tricky to consume an excess of calories. I suspect that calorie restriction side effect is responsible for at least some of the weight loss.
Remember fruit contains sugars, from someone who has gone from 22 stone to 13s 11lbaxel_knutt wrote: ↑25 May 2024, 12:05pmYup, fruit & veg, particularly veg, is just about the lowest calorie food there is, so pretty much anything you can eat instead will increase your calorie intake, and as most people aren't getting the recommended 30 different types of F&V a week, further restricting variety isn't a good idea either. That said, if you were to try to get all the calories you need from veg alone, you'd need a stomach the size of a gorillas. I average over 8 portions of F&V a day, and as much as 12 some days, but in total, that still only accounts for 22% of my total calorie intake.853 wrote: ↑24 May 2024, 1:32pmYes there are, but they're much, much lower than the processed foods that you might otherwise eat. Even a higher calorie vegetable, such as sweetcorn, has only 86kcal per 100g
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_corn
Neither I or briansnail mentioned fruit, which generally has more calories than veg
What's the source of this advice, please? There are lists of drugs which have possible interactions with grapefruit but is metformin on any of them?