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Jdsk wrote: ↑16 Jun 2024, 12:22pm The number of GP appointments in England has increased since the outbreak.

Jonathan

To what extent has the demand increased because of 2ndry care long waiting lists eg where patients are needing GP appointments to help mitigate symptoms whilst waiting for 2ndry healthcare to resolve eg for pain. Or where long waits allow complications as conditions worsen. Maybe no analysis.

Ian

Psamathe wrote: ↑16 Jun 2024, 12:52pm

Jdsk wrote: ↑16 Jun 2024, 12:22pm The number of GP appointments in England has increased since the outbreak.

To what extent has the demand increased because of 2ndry care long waiting lists eg where patients are needing GP appointments to help mitigate symptoms whilst waiting for 2ndry healthcare to resolve eg for pain. Or where long waits allow complications as conditions worsen. Maybe no analysis.

I haven't seen any. I'd guess that it's now having those adverse effects on primary care.

The thrashing that's happening in secondary care because of the waiting times for elective procedures is horribly inefficient. It's the exact opposite of lean process management and getting it right first time.

Jonathan

willcee wrote: ↑16 Jun 2024, 12:18pm INTERESTING READING..i have a simpler way of understanding whats happened since covid hit us, remember when we had that Eton educated PM who suggested and was imo right.... to have GP's working hours changed that suited anyone who had shifts and didn't work the old 9 to 5 there night and day and over weekends and the waiting lists would come down very quickly...

Kind of disappears up its own backside when you realise that GPs are people with lives too, so if you change GP work hours to those that suit anyone bar the GPs themselves the net result will be an even bigger GP recruitment problem than we already have.

Pete.

Pete, i'm unsure about the backside bit however when i was with the military it wasnt to do any knitting, when my mate joined the navy it wasnt to sit and fold sails in port and when those 'clever' people who decided to be doctors and so many of them realised 3 years into their training that it really wasnt as easy as it looked and they might have to get down and dirty.... i have lived as long as i have, met a few, some of them were decent people some i wouldnt wish to meet again under any circumstances, wrong personality, wrong attitude, wrong place at the wrong time, i personally don't hold them up to respect any more than i do for a car technican who passed his teck exams and who loosely does a job with no pride in his work just waiting on the friday night payday..i dont know exactly what a GP's salary is but probably iro 100k plus.. i have no particular axe to grind over the profession..w