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Fitting a kickstand to a bike withOut mounting plates
Posted: 14 Jul 2024, 8:16pm
by SA_SA_SA
I left my homemade clickstand somewhere in Northern England...
Simply being able to kick out a heavy duty stand (camping load
) as necessary would seem nice and also resistant to Mr forgetful but apparently a standard BB clamp will crush lightweight tubing (my bike has no mounting plate).
Any clever ideas for diy fitting of a permanent stand?
EDIT corrected title's with to without
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike with mounting plates
Posted: 15 Jul 2024, 8:29pm
by 2_i
A stand that grabs the triangle by the rear axle is usually a solution. I would choose one with an adjustable length and shock absorption.
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike with mounting plates
Posted: 16 Jul 2024, 2:38am
by OutdoorOasis
You can try using hose clamps or P-clamps to attach a sturdy kickstand directly to your bike's frame. Look for one with a wide rubber foot to distribute weight and prevent sinking into soft ground. Just make sure it's positioned to avoid interfering with pedaling or gear changes.
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike with mounting plates
Posted: 16 Jul 2024, 9:58am
by Brucey
the LH end of the rear axle often has a steel spacer on it. I think this could be the ideal place to weld a stand bracket.
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike with mounting plates
Posted: 17 Jul 2024, 8:25pm
by SA_SA_SA
Thanks.
This looks suitable:
https://www.hebie.de/en/parking/rear-stands/ax/616/
Edit has any one made they own combo version by combining a centrestand with a carry freedom L-bracket hitch part?
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike with mounting plates
Posted: 24 Jul 2024, 2:34pm
by SA_SA_SA
The linked hebie above looks like the wheek nut is recessed: doesn't that mean you need a socket set to remove wheel, a but of a disadvantage?
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike with mounting plates
Posted: 24 Jul 2024, 2:49pm
by 2_i
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike with mounting plates
Posted: 24 Jul 2024, 4:39pm
by Brucey
SA_SA_SA wrote: ↑24 Jul 2024, 2:34pm
The linked hebie above looks like the wheek nut is recessed: doesn't that mean you need a socket set to remove wheel, a but of a disadvantage?
The recess doesn't look terribly deep, so at worst you might lose half the nut, not enough to force the use of a socket?
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike withOut mounting plates
Posted: 24 Jul 2024, 10:40pm
by SA_SA_SA
Thanks
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike withOut mounting plates
Posted: 25 Jul 2024, 8:38am
by Cyclothesist
I suspect the best solution is to buy or make another click stand. There's no getting away from the problem of too weak walled tubing to take a mounted stand.
You've nicely illustrated why I disagreed with others here that a touring type bike should be made to take a stand mount. It really only requires strength in the chainstays and bottom bracket area. The tiny weight gain is negligible.
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike withOut mounting plates
Posted: 25 Jul 2024, 10:03am
by Brucey
Cyclothesist wrote: ↑25 Jul 2024, 8:38am..... There's no getting away from the problem of too weak walled tubing to take a mounted stand.
there is if you can be bothered to make a bracket as I have already described....
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike withOut mounting plates
Posted: 25 Jul 2024, 11:40am
by 531colin
Cyclothesist wrote: ↑25 Jul 2024, 8:38am
I suspect the best solution is to buy or make another click stand. There's no getting away from the problem of too weak walled tubing to take a mounted stand.
You've nicely illustrated why I disagreed with others here that a touring type bike should be made to take a stand mount. It really only requires strength in the chainstays and bottom bracket area. The tiny weight gain is negligible.
What tubing would you recommend?
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike withOut mounting plates
Posted: 25 Jul 2024, 12:14pm
by Brucey
most metal chainstays are built like fork blades. ie. the OD is tapered, but the wall thickness is far from constant, typically getting thicker-walled as the OD reduces. It is not at all difficult to design a better, non-crushing clamp, so maybe that offers a route ahead.
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike withOut mounting plates
Posted: 25 Jul 2024, 6:23pm
by Cyclothesist
531colin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2024, 11:40am
Cyclothesist wrote: ↑25 Jul 2024, 8:38am
I suspect the best solution is to buy or make another click stand. There's no getting away from the problem of too weak walled tubing to take a mounted stand.
You've nicely illustrated why I disagreed with others here that a touring type bike should be made to take a stand mount. It really only requires strength in the chainstays and bottom bracket area. The tiny weight gain is negligible.
What tubing would you recommend?
Whatever a knowledgeable frame designer would recommend for taking a kick stand mount
Ideally it would have a central drilled bracket suitably welded (?or brazed) in place behind the BB and under the chainstays that will take the M10 bolt for mounting the stand.
I think you know the answer to your own question.
Re: Fitting a kickstand to a bike withOut mounting plates
Posted: 25 Jul 2024, 6:27pm
by Cyclothesist
Brucey wrote: ↑25 Jul 2024, 10:03am
Cyclothesist wrote: ↑25 Jul 2024, 8:38am..... There's no getting away from the problem of too weak walled tubing to take a mounted stand.
there is if you can be bothered to make a bracket as I have already described....
I like your idea Brucey. The issue isn't about being bothered, more that not everyone can weld, even if they understood exactly what your bracket should look llike Brucey.
