Shimano 9 speed LINKGLIDE comaptibility

[deliquium]

I have a new bike with 9 speed Shimano Cues Linkglide rear mech, cassette, shifter and chain.

I tried replacing the the trigger shifter with a Shimano/Microshift 9 speed thumb shifter. It is not compatible.

As the Linkglide chain is the same for 9, 10 and 11 speed (CN-LG500), would that lead one to believe all the Linkglide cassettes (9, 10 and 11 speed) use the same spacing between sprockets? And perhaps an 11 speed Shimano/Microshift thumbshifter will work (albeit with 2 redundant clicks) with the Cues 9 speed rear derailleur and its 9 speed cassette?

Or does anyone know what the cable pull is on these latest Cues Linkglide derailleurs?

[531colin]

Pretty easy to measure the cable pull if you have the shifter?

[rareposter]

I have a new bike with 9 speed Shimano Cues Linkglide rear mech, cassette, shifter and chain.

I tried replacing the the trigger shifter with a Shimano/Microshift 9 speed thumb shifter. It is not compatible.

As the Linkglide chain is the same for 9, 10 and 11 speed (CN-LG500), would that lead one to believe all the Linkglide cassettes (9, 10 and 11 speed) use the same spacing between sprockets? And perhaps an 11 speed Shimano/Microshift thumbshifter will work (albeit with 2 redundant clicks) with the Cues 9 speed rear derailleur and its 9 speed cassette?

Or does anyone know what the cable pull is on these latest Cues Linkglide derailleurs?

CUES is only compatible with itself. The 9, 10 and 11 sp CUES stuff is pretty much all cross compatible within its own hierarchy - it's the same 11sp chain used throughout - but it either takes a lot of persuasion to work with other stuff or it simply won't work at all. Frankly it's not worth even trying to get it to work with non-CUES parts.

The thinking behind it isn't bad; ultimately it will replace a lot of the lower - mid end parts like Acera, Altus etc and avoid a lot of the existing compatibility and stock issues while also allowing for easier upgrade from (eg) 9 to 10sp but obviously it'll take a while for it all to filter through the market.

[slowster]

The video below contains answers to your questions.

[colin54]

Booths Bike Projects youtube poster has a rig set up to measure cable pulls and cassette pitches and has specific posts on Cues.
Here are the links to the videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q75AiGAUpp8
9 speed Cues Linkglide Cassette
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3DrbjFyn8A
Cues 9 speed derailleur pull ratio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5v07guUCGg&t=52s
Cues 9-speed Shifter cable pull

Good luck
Edit :- as mentioned in the pathless pedaled video upthread !

[deliquium]

Massive thanks all - excellent

My Google-Fu is totally sub par obvioulsy

[Brucey]

so the CUES shift ratio is ~1.13 vs ~1.2 for shimano MTB dynasys. In the video linked to by slowster, a 10s cassette was used with a CUES rd and Microshift sword brifters; apparently there is a small discrepancy in shift ratios here, but not enough to stop it from working.

[deliquium]

. . . and deliquium with his shenanigans because he doesn't like trigger shifters nor straight handlebars

The levers work wonderfully, but I want to be able to wrap my thumb under the grip without the down paddle getting in the way - and because I favour 45º swept back handlebars, I can't get the gear lever inward enough due to the bend in the bars + I don't like wide bars Mind you, I don't think trigger shifters would be at all ergonomic even if their clamp was hinged and could move further - they'd be all cock angled. Whereas a simple thumbshifter, even half way on the bend is still beautifully positioned - and there's nothing to foul my thumb grip under the bars.

I have a Microshift 11 speed thumbshifter, so will try that and see, just in case?

I have to say though, the Cues 9 speed is providing the best gear shifting I have encountered. It's a shame though that all their cassettes, whether 9, 10 or 11 speed and whatever ratios have the uncomfortable 17-20, 3 sprocket jump

Sometimes one has to accept you ain't going to win 'em all