Wearable temperature monitor?

[JohnR]

How about a Garmin Tempe https://www.amazon.co.uk/Garmin-Externa ... B0092ZMXBS fixed on a strap (HRM strap?) next to your body?

Interesting.
I assume that this is supposed to be just for ambient temperature.
I also assume that if it was supplied for medical style use it would have to go through a lot more testing and certification.
Possibly worth a try.

I might be tempted to get it for measuring ambient temperature and also have a play with it as a strap on.
Or just with some Kinesiology tape.

The Tempe is not cheap but useful to have. I've got a Tempe fixed on the underside on the stem where it is out of direct sunlight although it still gets radiation from a hot road. At one point last Monday (quite sunny) it was reading 7C lower than the Garmin Edge. Tempe Visualizer both displays the data on the screen and writes it to the .fit file.

[Cugel]

you might sweat, shirt get wet

Do not forget your cycle helmet.Put a tissue paper length wise.When you finish a summer ride it will be saturated.Pity you can't put helmets in the washing machine.Quick dunk in a pail I suppose.

Or a long dunk in the bin.

[Audax67]

Riding in the heat yesterday I wondered how you would monitor to make sure that you weren't over heating.

Forget about it. Humans have excellent temperature control built in at the factory. If you wear sun block and drink before you get thirsty you'll be fine. It's when you stop getting thirsty or stop sweating that you're at risk - it means you're already beginning to dehydrate. Old buggers like me fall into this trap easily because we don't feel thirst as much any more.

So sweat and be joyful.

[LittleGreyCat]

Riding in the heat yesterday I wondered how you would monitor to make sure that you weren't over heating.

Forget about it. Humans have excellent temperature control built in at the factory. If you wear sun block and drink before you get thirsty you'll be fine. It's when you stop getting thirsty or stop sweating that you're at risk - it means you're already beginning to dehydrate. Old buggers like me fall into this trap easily because we don't feel thirst as much any more.

So sweat and be joyful.

You seem to be contradicting yourself there.
Humans have good temperature senses until they get old?
So if you are old you may need additional help, logically.

I had a bad experience with overheating a few years back.
Ended up with heat stroke, which isn't funny.
I couldn't tell that I was over heating.
Just that I suddenly wasn't at all well and could barely pedal.

Out riding in the heat the other day I started to feel a little off centre.
Stopped, drank, rested a bit, poured water over myself to aid cooling.
I made it home OK but still felt a bit off for a while until I properly cooled down.
So having demonstrated that my built in temperature sensor may not work as expected I was considering other options.

[Audax67]

Not temperature sensing but thirst sensing. I actually think it could be related to memory: you do feel thirsty but you then forget about it. Hence the axiom "drink before you're dry".

However, I can now understand your desire to seek an external means of detection. Possibly, though, a thermometer on the bike would tell you when to be careful: it's an indication of how much sun you're getting.

[mattheus]

However, I can now understand your desire to seek an external means of detection.

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[Audax67]

However, I can now understand your desire to seek an external means of detection.

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Understanding the desire doesn't mean that I think an externally-worn monitor would be much use. Forgetting about it and remembering to keep drinking would be.

[mattheus]

However, I can now understand your desire to seek an external means of detection.

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Understanding the desire doesn't mean that I think an externally-worn monitor would be much use. Forgetting about it and remembering to keep drinking would be.

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[Psamathe]

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At one point last Monday (quite sunny) it [Garmin Tempe] was reading 7C lower than the Garmin Edge....

I feel my Garmin Edge gives far too high temperature readings. But that's my impression as I don't have other temperature sensors. Based on pleasant rides where Garmin Edge has recoded average temperatures that should have been a very hot ride.

My Garmin Edge is mounted vertically (on a recumbent) so it's presenting lower surface area to midday sun and higher surface area to air movement bother of which should reduce temperature.

Ian

[re_cycler]

Forget about it. Humans have excellent temperature control built in at the factory. If you wear sun block and drink before you get thirsty you'll be fine. It's when you stop getting thirsty or stop sweating that you're at risk - it means you're already beginning to dehydrate. Old buggers like me fall into this trap easily because we don't feel thirst as much any more.

So sweat and be joyful.

I'd agree with the in-built temperature regulation. However, this appear to be a regularly quoted statistic which would appear to show that it can go wrong.

According to data from the University of North Carolina’s National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury, 11 football players have died from heatstroke during football-related activity over the past five years – with the total rising to 68 over the last 25 years.

Taken in this case from USA Today.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf ... 0practices.

[Cugel]

Forget about it. Humans have excellent temperature control built in at the factory. If you wear sun block and drink before you get thirsty you'll be fine. It's when you stop getting thirsty or stop sweating that you're at risk - it means you're already beginning to dehydrate. Old buggers like me fall into this trap easily because we don't feel thirst as much any more.

So sweat and be joyful.

I'd agree with the in-built temperature regulation. However, this appear to be a regularly quoted statistic which would appear to show that it can go wrong.

According to data from the University of North Carolina’s National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury, 11 football players have died from heatstroke during football-related activity over the past five years – with the total rising to 68 over the last 25 years.

Taken in this case from USA Today.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/nf ... 0practices.

Do you think that having accurate core temp sensors and reporters would alter that behaviour? In practice, humans filled with an adamantine intent, such as those of professional sports types, will do anything to win, including all manner of self-abuse right up to killing themselves with their efforts.

"Put me back on my bike".

[JohnR]

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At one point last Monday (quite sunny) it [Garmin Tempe] was reading 7C lower than the Garmin Edge....

I feel my Garmin Edge gives far too high temperature readings. But that's my impression as I don't have other temperature sensors. Based on pleasant rides where Garmin Edge has recoded average temperatures that should have been a very hot ride.

My Garmin Edge is mounted vertically (on a recumbent) so it's presenting lower surface area to midday sun and higher surface area to air movement bother of which should reduce temperature.

Continuing to digress from the original topic. My Edge and the Tempe agree closely with each other on a heavily cloudy day with no solar radiation and with the weather station in my garden when I get back home. However, it's also possible that the gel case on my Edge reduces the airflow cooling (which is negligible anyway when going slowly uphill) which increases the problem of solar heating when the sun does shine. The Tempe is relatively expensive and I'm a little surprised that there aren't other more affordable ANT+ / BT temperature sensors.