The model you have seems to hit all the things you're looking for, so the obvious question here is why do you want to replace the Gazelle?danfoto wrote: 30 Jan 2025, 7:44pm After switching to ebikes in 2011, my current bike is a 2023-model Gazelle Grenoble C5HMB, which is coming up to 3000 miles of daily use in all weathers unless there's ice about. I'm considering a replacement, which may well be my last as I'm 78 and I have emphysema.
It's simply the combination of 75Nm, a 5-speed hub and the hills around here. Plus right now I have a problem with the gears. But your comments have hit the nail on the head. I couldn't find anything at all that ticks all the boxes like the present bike does, so I'm coming round to thinking that I just get the hub sorted out and accept the fact that I go up the hills slower.pjclinch wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 7:57am ... the obvious question here is why do you want to replace the Gazelle?
What is it about that particular model that you're not keen on to the point of replacing it?
Did my hyperlinks work for you?
TBH I didn't bother with them because as stated I need belt drive, front suspension and 7 or 8 speed gears. I've tried hard to like the Enviolo but it's not for me.
Ah, I'd not noticed it was a 5 speed, I didn't realise Shimano made a 5 speed hub to be honest.danfoto wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 9:18amIt's simply the combination of 75Nm, a 5-speed hub and the hills around here. Plus right now I have a problem with the gears. But your comments have hit the nail on the head. I couldn't find anything at all that ticks all the boxes like the present bike does, so I'm coming round to thinking that I just get the hub sorted out and accept the fact that I go up the hills slower.pjclinch wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 7:57am ... the obvious question here is why do you want to replace the Gazelle?
What is it about that particular model that you're not keen on to the point of replacing it?
Yes, they do. I've been well pleased with every aspect of my Grenoble, and were I in a better state that was unlikely to get worse, I'd continue to be well pleased. The one I had before was a Batavus, and I'd have bought another one, except come Brexit they dropped all sales to the UK.
Isn't it just ...stodd wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:19am ... It's a shame they can't have a sensible web site; theirs is terrible.
Alas that 8-speed version is only 50Nm.pjclinch wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:30am ... There is an 8 speed version of the Grenoble, e.g. https://www.edinburghbicycle.com/gazell ... ctric-bike
Another alternative to a whole new bike is you could get a new rear wheel built around an 8 Speed hub and sub it in for the 5. If you do that then the Alfine 8 is a more refined version of the Nexus 8 with better bearings and arguably a better buy. There's also an Alfine 11 with more or less the same form factor and more gear range.
One massive advantage of the Enviolo is that it is more than capable of handling the extra torque; indeed it gets specced on e-cargo bikes precisely for that reason.stodd wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 6:17pm Maybe the Nexus/Alfine hubs with more gears aren't specified to be used with higher torque motors?
Try harder!
Well I'm glad you like them I tried very hard indeed to like a Gazelle e-bike with an Enviolo hub after having been persuaded to spend around £3K on one, but eventually I gave up. I lost £1100 on that bike, which I could ill afford, and it took ages to sell. At least 4 of the potential buyers lost interest after trying it because of the gears ...rareposter wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 6:58pm ... But on e-bikes, especially utility / city e-bikes, they're amazing.
