Friendly support wanted!!!

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Moogiebug
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Hi everyone…. I’m new here & new to the cycling world… so far I’m finding it’s a really friendly, supportive sport so hoping I can get some encouragement!

I have taken on a JOGLE (and paid travel so it’s happening!) in 6 weeks time 😬

I’m aware it’s mad on many levels, especially as I don’t currently have a bike - but I will have! Largely I’m doing this for my brain/mental health which has been struggling….

Please, some words of encouragement & advice! Obviously as soon as I get said bike I will train on it, and the practical side of route planning/travel/camping etc is sorted as my partner & I are good at that kind of thing. We’re aiming to take 4 weeks to do the trip, so not super fast & there’s time leeway if needed.

I have a reasonable level of fitness as I work outdoors & move about a lot. I could do with some advice re: helping knee pain (my work means I have this).

I’m mainly struggling with non-cyclers being really negative about it and it’s making me anxious. I KNOW it’s a huge thing to do, but I desperately want to do it.

Any friendly words welcome, and thankyou.

Lily ✌️
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I've never done something of that magnitude, however I have tackled a couple of century rides and a 200km in the past. I think 6 weeks to prepare is a bit short to be honest, particularly if you don't have a bike yet. It may take some time and adaptation to be comfortable in the saddle for hours on end, let alone build up cycling specific fitness. I suspect it's doable if you are determined, however it might be a case of pushing through rather than enjoying it. Nonetheless, I wish you good luck.
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Hello & welcome. All I'm saying is that a long trip my friends & I undertook some decades ago had its challenges which we managed and remains one of our joint most treasured memories. My standard advice for such trips is halve the kit and double the money!
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Regarding the knee pain, make sure your saddle is not too low! A good starting point is to adjust it such that with your heel on the pedal and the cranks at the bottom of the stroke, your leg is straight. When you pedal properly with the ball of your foot above the pedal axle, your knee should be only slightly bent at the bottom of the stroke. Beware that you may not be able to get a foot down if you remain on the saddle when stopping, but that's pretty normal.
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Start in JoG, the hardest part is through Devon and Cornwall, the experienced cyclist might want to get that out of the way first, for the less experienced it might be over before Bristol.
You've given no indication of the timescale for the trip, or the accommodation plans, or the kit to be carried. If you have the time to be flexible, enough determination and a good amount of luck, you'll get there. If you don't, so what, it will be there for you next time.
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PH wrote: 28 Feb 2025, 7:49pm You've given no indication of the timescale for the trip...
OP said 4 weeks...
Moogiebug wrote: 28 Feb 2025, 3:18pm I’m mainly struggling with non-cyclers being really negative about it and it’s making me anxious. I KNOW it’s a huge thing to do, but I desperately want to do it.
I've worked on several LEJOG guided / supported rides and a few other similar sort of tours, usually operating on the basis of 100-ish miles a day. Some people turn up having done hundreds if not thousands of miles in prep and training. Some have literally never ridden 100 miles in a day before and they turn up on day 1 to ride their first ever century...followed by 8 more century rides.

A lot of the people who sign up to tours like that are doing so for charity, sometimes as a bit of a dare or they've signed on in a drunken haze or whatever but they push through and persevere. The most difficult aspect is actually the logistics - what to take, what to carry, what to wear, how to pack, charging stuff in the evening, recovery and so on. The riding is actually the easy (easier...) bit. Get on bike, pedal. That's pretty simple.

Sorting out kit in the evening, packing for the next day, cleaning the bike, drying wet kit. That's the pain in the @rse bit which no-one ever "trains" for.

And people have done it on all sorts of bikes, it doesn't need to be anything flash or expensive. Main thing is it needs to be comfy. Everything else sort of takes care of itself (and this is another thing we see all the time, people fretting about "is my bike good enough?").
Does it work? Is it comfy?
So long as the answer to both of those is "yes", you're half way there. Most of it is mental. That's especially true over the course of a month where you're pretty much guaranteed to face at least some adverse weather. On a week long tour you can pick a decent looking week and go for it - on a month long tour, there's going to be some days where you'll get wet so you need the mental strength to manage things like that.

Actually the most inspirational people I find on those sorts of events I've worked on have been the folk who are way outside their comfort zone, who have had to lose 20lb to even start training properly, who have signed up because of some family trauma or because they've survived cancer. Any half decent club cyclist can smash out 100 miles in 6-7hrs, comfy on their carbon bike with electronic gears.
The impressive people are the ones who push through every day, knowing they're doing it to raise money for a good cause, trying their hardest.

Besides, 4 weeks is a leisure ride, you can take a few days off here and there, see the sights, take the scenic route... Even if you only ride 20 of the 30 days in a month, that's only 50 miles a day average and even non-trained cyclists can manage that!

Good luck! And remember to look at the scenery, not just down at a cycle computer!
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Actually, there is an indicated timescale of 4 weeks, but it may well be a spamtastic post anyway.
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Good luck OP - keep us posted!
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rareposter wrote: 28 Feb 2025, 8:24pm
PH wrote: 28 Feb 2025, 7:49pm You've given no indication of the timescale for the trip...
OP said 4 weeks...
So they did. In which case I'd agree with this, though I might also choose a route that minimised the climbing, there's one on cycle-travel.
4 weeks is a leisure ride, you can take a few days off here and there, see the sights, take the scenic route... Even if you only ride 20 of the 30 days in a month, that's only 50 miles a day average and even non-trained cyclists can manage that!
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Victor wrote: 28 Feb 2025, 8:26pm Actually, there is an indicated timescale of 4 weeks, but it may well be a spamtastic post anyway.

Sorry….. if you think I’ve made the post as ‘spam’ you’re not correct…. It’s not ‘spam’, i just wanted some support/advice from more experienced people.

I say 4 weeks & that’s not set in stone.
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rareposter wrote: 28 Feb 2025, 8:24pm
PH wrote: 28 Feb 2025, 7:49pm You've given no indication of the timescale for the trip...
OP said 4 weeks...
Moogiebug wrote: 28 Feb 2025, 3:18pm I’m mainly struggling with non-cyclers being really negative about it and it’s making me anxious. I KNOW it’s a huge thing to do, but I desperately want to do it.
I've worked on several LEJOG guided / supported rides and a few other similar sort of tours, usually operating on the basis of 100-ish miles a day. Some people turn up having done hundreds if not thousands of miles in prep and training. Some have literally never ridden 100 miles in a day before and they turn up on day 1 to ride their first ever century...followed by 8 more century rides.

A lot of the people who sign up to tours like that are doing so for charity, sometimes as a bit of a dare or they've signed on in a drunken haze or whatever but they push through and persevere. The most difficult aspect is actually the logistics - what to take, what to carry, what to wear, how to pack, charging stuff in the evening, recovery and so on. The riding is actually the easy (easier...) bit. Get on bike, pedal. That's pretty simple.

Sorting out kit in the evening, packing for the next day, cleaning the bike, drying wet kit. That's the pain in the @rse bit which no-one ever "trains" for.

And people have done it on all sorts of bikes, it doesn't need to be anything flash or expensive. Main thing is it needs to be comfy. Everything else sort of takes care of itself (and this is another thing we see all the time, people fretting about "is my bike good enough?").
Does it work? Is it comfy?
So long as the answer to both of those is "yes", you're half way there. Most of it is mental. That's especially true over the course of a month where you're pretty much guaranteed to face at least some adverse weather. On a week long tour you can pick a decent looking week and go for it - on a month long tour, there's going to be some days where you'll get wet so you need the mental strength to manage things like that.

Actually the most inspirational people I find on those sorts of events I've worked on have been the folk who are way outside their comfort zone, who have had to lose 20lb to even start training properly, who have signed up because of some family trauma or because they've survived cancer. Any half decent club cyclist can smash out 100 miles in 6-7hrs, comfy on their carbon bike with electronic gears.
The impressive people are the ones who push through every day, knowing they're doing it to raise money for a good cause, trying their hardest.

Besides, 4 weeks is a leisure ride, you can take a few days off here and there, see the sights, take the scenic route... Even if you only ride 20 of the 30 days in a month, that's only 50 miles a day average and even non-trained cyclists can manage that!

Good luck! And remember to look at the scenery, not just down at a cycle computer!



Thankyou for this viewpoint, your support and knowledge. It is appreciated.
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Moogiebug wrote: 28 Feb 2025, 3:18pm We’re aiming to take 4 weeks to do the trip, so not super fast & there’s time leeway if needed.

I have a reasonable level of fitness as I work outdoors & move about a lot. I could do with some advice re: helping knee pain (my work means I have this).
That is an inordinate amount of time, you could probably walk it in a month. Just take one of those stretchy knee bandages you can buy cheap in Tesco or any pharmacy and put in on if you get any pain.

If you work outside you obviously enjoy fresh air, not sat behind a desk all day so basically you will find it easy.

Go for it and enjoy yourself. Good luck!
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SimonCelsa wrote: 1 Mar 2025, 7:14pm That is an inordinate amount of time, you could probably walk it in a month. Just take one of those stretchy knee bandages you can buy cheap in Tesco or any pharmacy and put in on if you get any pain.

If you work outside you obviously enjoy fresh air, not sat behind a desk all day so basically you will find it easy.

Go for it and enjoy yourself. Good luck!
Wikipedia reckons 2-3 months to walk it? A month should be plenty of time.

What route have you got in mind?
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4 Weeks is plenty of time to cover the distance, the first thing to consider though is getting comfortable on your new bike and getting the saddle height etc correct. If your uncomfortable for a few miles around home, then 4 weeks traversing the UK is going to be unpleasant.
Whilst you've only got 6 weeks before you set off that's plenty of time to get used to your new bike and get things set up just right.

You mention camping so are you planning on taking camping stuff with you or are you going to be supported? Either way you need to get used to cycling with all the stuff your going to be carrying with you before you set off. Your bike will feel totally different once you add in the stuff you need to get through the day, or camping stuff, to how it feels naked, so practice with the kit you intend to carry on a daily basis from day one.

Most importantly, set sensible goals that you will be able to meet. Thinking that your going to do 100 miles a day through Cornwall is unrealistic and if you fail to meet the targets you have set for yourself it will be demoralising. You are better off setting your daily targets low, taking the time to enjoy the ride and meeting those targets than failing. As others have pointed out, 4 weeks is about 50 miles a day. Set your target for the first few days for 20-30 miles whilst you get used to being on the bike all day and build into the longer days in the flatter part of the country and in my opinion you won't go far wrong.

Most importantly though, enjoy your adventure, you'll have a brilliant time as long as you take it easy.
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You say it's a huge thing to do but remember huge things are made up of lots of smaller things. The smaller things are manageable and before long you'll be well into the huge thing. DanZac's advice about keeping your early days short is excellent advice. You have plenty of time to do it which is a big bonus. Add in some rest days but have some contingency days you can use when the weather is rubbish or you've found somewhere really nice to camp. Just think how good you'll be at cycle camping by the end.

Someone mentioned the easy cycle.travel route. Here it is - https://cycle.travel/route/lejog_east_coast

Good luck!
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