j.warner wrote:I THINK THEY ARE RUBBISH! AWFUL ANGLES SLOPPY FORK ANGLES, AND ALL MADE IN TAIWAn!!! get yourself a real handmade bike built for the same money roberts, dolan,mercian etc. and keep frame building alive in this country enough said!!
I actually enquired at Bob Jackson about one of their "off the peg" audax frames(£360) and was told four to six weeks wait and when and if I bought it,it wouldn't take 28mm tyres with M/guards

,I also didn't like the manner which I was dealt with both of which put me off.
Mercian's (£485+VAT)OTPeg Audax Special didn't take 28mm tyre either not that I felt I could justify the extra expence.
Which leaves Dolan I confess of which I didn't enquire though all of the frames from Dolan that I've seen appear to be of "taiwanese rubbish built" as you so elequently put it.
So for £299 with a 100 day money back option and next day delivery I thought I would give the "Taiwanese rubbish" a go,I knew it was Taiwanese built as Thorn make no bones about it.Indeed it has a decal informing as such (not saying its rubbish,that would be silly wouldn't it?)
Anyway I'm really happy with mine

but then I probably don't know as much about bicycles as you obviously do,in which case I wouldn't have bought mine and been happy
PS, Have you ridden one(the Thorn sloppy angled Taiwanese rubbish that is)?
BTW Is your handmade British frameset equiped with British components?
Please do tell
