Frog in trouble?

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and in the meantime the big bike brands and e.g. Halford have raised their game with lighter bikes with child sized brake levers etc.
This is definitely true. There is now much less “clear blue water” in terms of quality between a Frog and the better of the more mainstream offerings.

There are, of course, still some truly horrible kids bikes on the market at the very cheapest end of the spectrum, just as there are still some truly horrible adults bikes on the market.
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The stuff about high street rents, rates and taxes seems relevant to a retailer, rather than a manufacturer.
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Bmblbzzz wrote: 13 Feb 2026, 6:02pm The stuff about high street rents, rates and taxes seems relevant to a retailer, rather than a manufacturer.
Business Property rates affect both manufacturer and retailer and is extremely expensive.
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They also apply to offices, which is going to be more relevant to Frog. For manufacturing, they'll be paying whatever the equivalent of business rates are in Taiwan or somewhere – they're not manufactured in Britain are they?
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"They started manufacturing in the UK in 2016 moving production back from China to improve lead times and quality."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frog_Bikes

but I don't know if that's up to date.

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That has to be assembly in the UK, surely? I can’t image they’re welding their own aluminium frames here.
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China's not the small sweat shop chanty towns it used to be. There are state of the art factories churning out some amazing products. We are becoming more towards the 3rd world end of world economics so it wouldn't surprise me if some manufacturing comes back here. The Chinese people expect better wages and working conditions now. The tide is against on our over regulated ( over taxed too ) pampered workforce.
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Often seen riding a bike around Dundee...
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Sad news.
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Often seen riding a bike around Dundee...
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In some ways its a good idea but in others not so good. He has a habit of turning decent quality brands into cheap and nasty. Just look at muddyfox and karrimor just to mention 2 brands used to be very good and now not so good.
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Makes me wonder if he sees most value in the brand name, rather than the product itself.
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Nearholmer wrote: 19 Mar 2026, 7:17pm Makes me wonder if he sees most value in the brand name, rather than the product itself.
Perhaps in much the same way as I wonder if the Pope has ever attended mass or if bear excrement has ever been found in Canadian forest land...

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Yes, I was being a bit dopey when I said that.
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