Whats the most "jobsworth" thing a cop could do?

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Whats the most "jobsworth" thing a cop could do?

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I saw a video of a truck with its hazard lights on, while driving past an occupied cop car. The truck only had the hazard lights on to say "Thank you" to another vehicle behind that had flashed it to let it out. The truck quickly turned off the hazards when it got to the cop car and I thought, maybe the truck driver knew he isn't meant to have them on.

It really got me thinking though... is that actually illegal?

It turns out it can be classed as "careless driving".

This is what Google AI came up with:

"Driving with hazard lights on is generally illegal in the UK while moving, except on a motorway or unrestricted dual carriageway to warn traffic behind of a hazard or sudden traffic jam ahead. According to Rule 116 of the Highway Code, they are primarily for warning others when your vehicle is stationary and causing an obstruction".

Rule 116 isn't worded that way though, it says this:

"116: Hazard warning lights. These may be used when your vehicle is stationary, to warn that it is temporarily obstructing traffic. Never use them as an excuse for dangerous or illegal parking. You MUST NOT use hazard warning lights while driving or being towed unless you are on a motorway or unrestricted dual carriageway and you need to warn drivers behind you of a hazard or obstruction ahead. Only use them for long enough to ensure that your warning has been observed. Law RVLR reg 27"

The end of that mentions "Law RVLR reg 27" where it goes beyond the Highway Code and into actual legislation, it says this:

"27. No person shall use, or cause or permit to be used, on a road any vehicle on which any lamp, hazard warning signal device or warning beacon of a type specified in an item in column 2 of the Table below is used in a manner specified in that item in column 3."

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https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/regulation/27
Right so that does rule out what the truck driver was doing, he shouldn't have been doing it.

Then I thought, if that cop was highly strung or whatever, could he pull over that truck driver and tell him not to do it? Could he fine him? Could the truck driver even get jail time? :lol:

I know no cop would ever do that - but it's the principle of it and what if the cop was really hot headed, what could he legally do as a punishment?

Is there anything even less of a crime than this you could be pulled for? :lol:

I know there's a lot of outdated laws that almost don't apply anymore but there's so many of these quirky things it is interesting to me. I mean what's the most victimless thing you can be fined and/or even put in jail for doing, but no cop in his right mind would bother to pull someone up for it?

You guys in this forum are always talking about the highway code and with it being a cycling forum I can see why, so maybe there could be some other really inane acts that are illegal? :D
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Manc33 wrote: 3 Mar 2026, 7:52pm This is what Google AI came up with:
There's your mistake. Put the AI bong down.

Lighting offences are generally an on the spot fine, not a careless driving charge.


More pointless? Penalising a recumbent rider for not fitting near-useless pedal reflectors.
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Google AI often needs to be taken with a large pinch of salt.

Re hazards, I would never dream of using them for the suggested purpose on a motorway when I have a perfectly good set of brake lights specially designed to tell those behind that I'm slowing down ...
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Manc33 wrote: 3 Mar 2026, 7:52pm You guys in this forum are always talking about the highway code and with it being a cycling forum I can see why, so maybe there could be some other really inane acts that are illegal? :D
Pulling a cyclist for cycling without pedal reflectors.

Lock em up and throw away the key i say :lol:

Update : sorry just noted that mrj picked this up already above. How about being pulled for having bike lights that don't comply with BS 61023 cos you got them cheap on Aliexpress?
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not sure how legal "flashing to let them out " is either. i'm sure that a bad tempered Peeler may take someone up on that too.
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Treading on the cracks in the pavement
Walking around with an offensive wife
Loitering at a pedestrian crossing
.....

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axel_knutt wrote: 4 Mar 2026, 12:25pm Treading on the cracks in the pavement
Walking around with an offensive wife
Loitering at a pedestrian crossing
.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5dy9URkLFI
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No reflectors on recumbent pedals has to be the best up to now :lol:
axel_knutt wrote: 4 Mar 2026, 12:25pm Treading on the cracks in the pavement
Walking around with an offensive wife
Loitering at a pedestrian crossing
.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5dy9URkLFI
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deeferdonk wrote: 4 Mar 2026, 11:39am
Manc33 wrote: 3 Mar 2026, 7:52pm You guys in this forum are always talking about the highway code and with it being a cycling forum I can see why, so maybe there could be some other really inane acts that are illegal? :D
Pulling a cyclist for cycling without pedal reflectors.

Lock em up and throw away the key i say :lol:

Update : sorry just noted that mrj picked this up already above. How about being pulled for having bike lights that don't comply with BS 61023 cos you got them cheap on Aliexpress?
mjr not mrj. And specifically recumbents, where the reflectors would be reflecting the moon and any ground-mounted uplighters, not other headlights.

You won't get pulled for having bike lights that don't comply with BS 61023 because that's not an offence, nor would it be with the correct BS number. You could in theory get pulled for having lights that don't comply with any standard and aren't flashing between one and four times a second at a constant rate, but they're also likely to be dazzling other road users, in which case, penalising them is far from inane.
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mig wrote: 4 Mar 2026, 12:14pm not sure how legal "flashing to let them out " is either. i'm sure that a bad tempered Peeler may take someone up on that too.
Flashing headlights is legal, but officially it only means "I am here" (Highway Code Rules 110 and 111), so any driver acting foolishly and pulling out on the basis of being "flashed out", rather than checking for themselves, is driving carelessly and could be penalised.

I'm sure I can't be the only cyclist to have suffered an oncoming driver flashing and slowing to let a driver out across my path, putting me in danger needlessly and requiring emergency braking.
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Many moons ago I was stopped by a very tired looking constable at 0530 hrs and a bollocking for riding on a city centre pavement .not another sole to be seen .
I laughed the rest of the way home .
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Stopping cyclists to tell them they should wear a helmet.
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mjr wrote: 4 Mar 2026, 5:04pm
deeferdonk wrote: 4 Mar 2026, 11:39am
Manc33 wrote: 3 Mar 2026, 7:52pm You guys in this forum are always talking about the highway code and with it being a cycling forum I can see why, so maybe there could be some other really inane acts that are illegal? :D
Pulling a cyclist for cycling without pedal reflectors.

Lock em up and throw away the key i say :lol:

Update : sorry just noted that mrj picked this up already above. How about being pulled for having bike lights that don't comply with BS 61023 cos you got them cheap on Aliexpress?
mjr not mrj. And specifically recumbents, where the reflectors would be reflecting the moon and any ground-mounted uplighters, not other headlights.

You won't get pulled for having bike lights that don't comply with BS 61023 because that's not an offence, nor would it be with the correct BS number. You could in theory get pulled for having lights that don't comply with any standard and aren't flashing between one and four times a second at a constant rate, but they're also likely to be dazzling other road users, in which case, penalising them is far from inane.
Cycling UK' summary of the lighting regs
Front lamp
At least one lamp is required, showing a white light, positioned centrally or offside (the right-hand side of the bike), up to 1,500mm from the ground, aligned towards and visible from the front.

If capable of emitting a steady light, it must be marked as conforming to BS6102/3 or an equivalent EC standard
If capable of emitting only a flashing light, it must emit at least four candelas
But i like it - correcting minor errors in other peoples post on a thread about jobsworths - its kind of meta! :D
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Edit - duplicate post
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Off at a tangent, for those of you expecting to drive in France: whereas a 'flash'in the UK can mean 'I'm letting you out' in France it means 'watch out, I'm coming through' - so don't do it.

Got fined for speeding once, many years ago, on the Nantes ring road - 0500, on the way to Roscoff for the ferry, and clocked at 2 KPH over the limit - in a car with a speedo in MPH. Just the width of the needle, perhaps?
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