European cycling-(advice needed)

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Comunista

European cycling-(advice needed)

Post by Comunista »

Hi everybody, this will be my first ever thread on your forums.

Me and a friend are currently planning a cycling trip across europe. Although my friend is quiet experienced cycler, am somewhat of a novice and have never 'toured' before. What steps could i take to ensure i would be able to keep up with him? my trip is in few months, so how can i prepare myself physically and mentally?

Am also looking to purchase a bike..what kind of bike will carry me across France, Spain, back to france, Italy then perhaps Switzerland or Austria? Am a university student so my budget on a bike cannot exceed £300. This will be a relaxed holiday, staying in some cities for few days at a time. Am young and am not overweight, does the prospects look slim? Also does anyone have any maps or routes i could take?Scenic is best.

Sorry for writting so much, you can probably guess i am inexperienced. :)
Comunista

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Also what kind of clothing shall i wear? tracksuits? Shorts? jeans? Cycling gear? how much would this cost?
Josh

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Post by Josh »

Hello!
The best step that you could take to prepare yourself for a tour would be to get in some cycling before hand. Try going for long day rides and also try to go on a 2/3 day cycling trip. Go somewhere nearby and dont push yourself. Practice cycling for a long time, so for example do 8 mph, but do it all day. This is the best type of practice as endurance is the main thing that kills. Go on weekend rides with the person you're going to be going on the trip with.
On the bike front a good idea would be to go to your local bike dealer, tell them your problem and they'll probably recommend a good bike. Failing that i'd recommend dawes (possibly the horzon) and raleigh (possibly the pioneer venture, a good entry level tourer). Ask around and surf the web on different bike sites.
Also you will want to make sure that you have all of the gear that goes along with a trip like this. Make sure you have good pannier bags that you can fit everything you plan to take into (make sure they're waterproof). Also you'll need the usual lights, puncture repair kit, coat etc...
For clothing it depends what time of year you are planning to go, in summer shorts, t-shirts, wolly jumpers, rainsheet etc. In winter you'll want long trousers that dry quickly (being wet will make any problem with the cold a much bigger problem). You can choose to buy all of the different specialist clothing, talk to the bikeshop again, but i spend a lot of my time just cycling in shorts + t-shirt that i got from ordinary shops (specifically legend).
You can choose how many clothes to take but you need to make sure you have a coat and enough jumpers to keep you warm.
The cycling gear i've got is-
1) T-Shirts- any random ones-various
2) Trousers-Tight ones that are snug warm- £30
3) Socks- Wooly socks that keep you warm even when wet- knee length- £10
4) Shoes- Used to wear trainers but recently bought shimano spd clip in shoes- Pedals + Shoes- £95

As you can see you can get a bit carried away :-) (i blame the sales guy)

Don't know anything about routes, maybe one of the more knowledgeable people can help you their.

Hope you have fun as that is what is always the point, just remember that people have done that route with £1000's worth of equipment and they have also done it with £0 worth of specialist equipment. You can have fun either way!

Good Luck- Post the reults of the trip! :-)
Comunista

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Hi there, thnx for your reply. I will probably go right after my exams, mid may-june so the mediterranian and western europe should be quite warm. We think the trip should take between 1 month to 1 1/2 month. I just subscribed to my local gym, so i can use the bicycle machine. :)
mike6

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Post by mike6 »

You could also consider a second hand bike, just make sure it is overhauled before starting out!
Try to break yourself in with daily riding, even 3-5 miles a day, and get in some bigger mileages at the weekend.
Once you have an idea of where you want to go, come back for more advice, as there are cycle specific maps available for many routes in Europe.
gar

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Post by gar »

I find that if I train I don't go on the trip!

Miss out on cycling before you go a couple of weeks and then you are ready for the ride!!
Comunista

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Post by Comunista »

Hi

Having talked to my friend, we have worked out what route we will take. We will start in Brussels, from there head to Lille, then Paris - Nantes - Bordeaux- Bayonne- Bilbao (Spain) - Madrid- Valencia- Barcalona-Montpellier (France)- Marseille- Nice- Monaco- Genoa (Italy)- Florence - Rome- Ancona- San Marino- Bologna- Venice- Verona- Milano- Torino- (so far up to here).

Does this route sound impossible? Has anyone ever taken this route? Bear in mind we are going to take our time, and expect to complete this in 1 and half months.

Which kind of bvike would carry me furthest? Mountain bike? Touring bike? Pros and cons?
mel

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Post by mel »

I agree with gar, my best trips have been the ones I went on without planning, just roll of the ferry and turn left or right, depending on which way the wind blows.
bikepacker

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Post by bikepacker »

I have done much of your route but not in one go. I would think to do that trip in 1.5 months would mean a continual slog. You may enjoy that, I certainly would not.
mike6

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Post by mike6 »

Mel, agreed, that is what I do too! It must be dreadful to have a plan, and then not have time to stop for a day or two and take time to enjoy something that interests you.
gar

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I said without training NOT without planning!

If I did not plan I would be lost in five minutes and going the wrong way up a Spanish motor way to England.
bikepacker

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Would it not be more helpful to those asking question for only those with experience of a current undertaking of what is being asked, to answer. It must be very misleading to someone to have a load of answers from talkers not doers.
Nurgles

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Post by Nurgles »

Bikepacker is right but to be young and healthy (as I presume he is) is a prime ingredient.Now,at an advanced age I need to consider all this training and bike efficiency.I didnt when I was his age and just went for it.

Just get a decent bike.The best you can afford.Use your own judgement on style ,clothes and equipment.Plan your route basically and follow your nose.mistakes will be made but what the hell.
There is too much given to planning these days including the need for sponsorship and the best equipment.
Check out what IanHibell and Heinz Stucke were doing many years ago (on their websites)
bikepacker

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Post by bikepacker »

Thanks for comment about being young and healthy, I feel both of those. One little problem however: I have been retired 8 years and although maintain a great interest in cycling did very little between the ages of 20yo and 50yo.
Josh

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Post by Josh »

Bike- Raleigh Venture/ Dawes Horizon
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