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Posted: 28 Oct 2008, 12:07am
by meic
Up until that no-one really seemed worried about the front or rear of HGVs it was only the side that was considered a big problem.
Before I got a cycle I used to walk a lot around here and I often had scares from HGVs driving such that their mirrors were overhanging the pavement and I was having to move out of their path.

Posted: 28 Oct 2008, 12:27am
by 2Tubs
pdapat wrote:Youwill all go out tomorrow convinced that you are invincible and have a 'right' to cause every other road user as much inconvenience as possible.
And we'll all go out tomorrow branding every cyclist we see as juvenile idiots who defend their 'right' regardless of their own safety.

Well Done CTC :D :D

Pat


Blimey, it is nice to see the same old tripe regurgetated now and then. It gives us all a laugh.

No, the idiot motorists/truckers etc with no respect of the safety of others will remind us that we aren't invincible. We are reminded of our mortality all too often.

We have a right to the road (notice I didn't use quotes there, you show your bigoted position with them) and I assert it.

My safety is only compromised by idiots who don't respect that right and certainly don't understand the rules of the roads. Perhaps it's them you should be angry with?

I don't do anything dangerous on the roads. Yet I find myself in danger all too often.

I never go out to inconvenience anyone. In fact, tomorrow during the rush hour I will be the quickest vehicle on the road. Those big queues of cars and trucks will "inconvenience" me.

See what happens when you deal with facts rather than Clarksonite preconceptions and myths? You don't look like an idiot.

Gazza

Posted: 28 Oct 2008, 6:22am
by Simon L6
I think it might be time to draw this to a close. Our visitor will excuse a lack of interest in being wound up, and will take their caravan of despair elsewhere....

2tubs has summarised it brilliantly. Cyclists can go out on to the street, ride sensibly, and still be put in harm's way by people who don't recognise that moving tonnes of metal around involves responsibility - not least for the consequences. I'm not sure of the figures nationwide, but I recall that in the last year fifteen cyclists and 122 pedestrians were killed in London - one of the most benign street environments one could wish for. Unless drivers are able, as individuals, to connect their actions with the consequences, we're in difficulty.