IT'S BEHIND YOU!!!

[Mick F]

Sorry, no.
I read it properly, and quoted it properly too.
The table is contradictory.

Also, I've just been on a few websites, and DFT have the best bits, but the page isn't complete. It refers to a table below, but there isn't one.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehicle ... 576?page=5
Mirror requirements
The tables below summarise the number, type and standard of mirror required to be fitted to various types of vehicle.

[Si]

I find recumbent mirrors (or at least mine) a different kettle of fish to upright mirrors. My 'bent mirror is on an OSS so I just look to the right to see what's behind me over my right shoulder - more or less the same as a car internal mirror but reversed. It's very natural, quick and gives a very good view of what's behind.

My old upright, bar mounted mirror, on the other and, always took a moment or two to focus properly, plus it was further from my head so the image was less expansive. It was usable but looking over the should would have been much the preferred option if it wasn't for neck damage.

I tried one of those helmet mounted mirrors - complete waste of time - took ages to focus, could see hardly anything, loads of vibration and got knocked easily whenever I put the helmet down.

[Jack]

And for completeness, vehicles which were first used before 1 June 1978 (or in the case of a Ford Transit motorcar, 10 July 1978) which is either a bus, a dual purpose vehicle, or a goods vehicle they must have at least one external on the offside and at least one either internal or external on the nearside. Cars first used before 1 June 1978 must have at least one mirror fitted either internally or externally.

Whoops The 1986 Regs were amended in 2005 to take account of EU directives. Nearly lost will to live trying to trace back, but sun has come out so off out on bike.

[Mick F]

Here's another link:
http://www.ukmot.com/6-6.asp#Text_top

It says, though not very clearly, that you need:

RH mirror
or
LH mirror
or
Interior mirror

[Mick F]

......but sun has come out so off out on bike.

We had 1 hour of sunshine yesterday.
I understand that the weather here should cheer up over the next few days. It rained every day, if not all day, for weeks.

If it was sunny here, I'd be on my bike trying to feel better. Instead I'm sitting feeling grumpy and arguing a stupid point about mirrors!

I need to get a life ......

[hubgearfreak]

It says, though not very clearly, that you need:

for cars before 1978.

[Mick F]

I need to get a life ......

...... for cars before 1978.

No it doesn't!
Yes it does further down, but it doesn't say anything about all mirrors fitted since that date in the first bit. It repeats itself and doesn't differentiate.

I suggest you read it again .......

(I've got nothing better to do than argue pedantics about a badly worded table. I've given up trying to find a definitive statement that is written correctly and unambiguously put.)

[hubgearfreak]

I've given up trying to find a definitive statement that is written correctly and unambiguously put.)

i'll also happily leave it at that...

[Mick F]

Is there an emoticon for a hand shake?

[glueman]

This thread might be entitled ARE CYCLISTS EASY TO WIND UP WITH CAPITAL LETTERS AND EXCLAMATION MARKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hubgearfreak]

Is there an emoticon for a hand shake?

not since 1978

[Mick F]

Hi Glueman!
Good isn't it!

I see our OP hasn't come back yet .......

[meic]

He's behind you, if you had looked in your mirror....

[reohn2]

I find recumbent mirrors (or at least mine) a different kettle of fish to upright mirrors. My 'bent mirror is on an OSS so I just look to the right to see what's behind me over my right shoulder - more or less the same as a car internal mirror but reversed. It's very natural, quick and gives a very good view of what's behind.

My old upright, bar mounted mirror, on the other and, always took a moment or two to focus properly, plus it was further from my head so the image was less expansive. It was usable but looking over the should would have been much the preferred option if it wasn't for neck damage.

I tried one of those helmet mounted mirrors - complete waste of time - took ages to focus, could see hardly anything, loads of vibration and got knocked easily whenever I put the helmet down.

I'll have a pint of what he's ^ had

[reohn2]

This thread might be entitled ARE CYCLISTS EASY TO WIND UP WITH CAPITAL LETTERS AND EXCLAMATION MARKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!