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Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 4:25pm
by seank
If the proposed Scottish cycle road tax was proportional to the car tax [by what ever method], would that be about 5p! Isn't this just another go at getting cyclists registered Big Brother style.

Didn't someone once work out what the cost of road would be if it really did pay for the road system? I seem to remember a figure of about £1500?

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 4:31pm
by meic
Zero emmision vehicles pay £0 so it would just be a paperwork hassle.

Of course the cars that get a zero rating create more emissions than our bikes. So in fairness you should get a £20 rebate on your other vehicles VED for each bike that you own. 8)

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 4:38pm
by hubgearfreak
seank wrote:Didn't someone once work out what the cost of road would be if it really did pay for the road system? I seem to remember a figure of about £1500?


no. obviously it would depend upon your mileage.
21p a mile is the figure that society subsidises the motorist, if you look back at previous threads on the issue

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 5:43pm
by Ron
seank wrote:If the proposed Scottish cycle road tax

There has never been a proposal to set up a "Scottish cycle road tax". :(

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 7:36pm
by bodach
Where on earth did you get this from? Never heard of it. Probably a scare tactic by anti nat.politicians

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 9:04pm
by irc
bodach wrote:Where on earth did you get this from? Never heard of it. Probably a scare tactic by anti nat.politicians


You'll find the proposal on page 47 of the Scottish Government's consultation document "Cycling Action Plan For Scotland".

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc ... 081826.pdf

"10. Should all road users pay road tax? If so, how much should it be for cyclists
and how could it be enforced?"

Obviously once people responded pointing out the stupidity of the suggestion it was dumped.

http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/A-roa ... 5973133.jp

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 10:17pm
by mercurykev
Just because it is posed as a question in a consultation, doesn't mean that it's a proposal; especially in the way it is worded. If it had said, "we think it would be a good idea to make cyclists pay road tax, what do you think?" it would be a bit different. It's what is known as a non-story.

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 10:22pm
by Ron
irc wrote:You'll find the proposal on page 47 of the Scottish Government's consultation document "Cycling Action Plan For Scotland".

A government proposal would be laid out in formal terms.
The questionnaire you refer to is nothing other than a set of (rather blunt) spurs designed to provoke discussion.

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 10:35pm
by thirdcrank
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It just goes to show how careful you have to be with your language. It would be so easy to assume it's a proposal for tacks on roads for cyclists. ( :idea: Let's hope nobody thinks it was a proposal for attacks on cyclists using the road.)

:wink:

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 16 Jan 2010, 9:43am
by reohn2
Re:- thread title
One word. Stupid!

With the state of these islands at present how any politrickian can waste a nano second of his/her time on such a stupid idea is beyond me.
Any voter who lives in Scotland could do a lot better than voting for any set of pratts assembled together and calling themselves a party(? :? )who spend their time considering such tripe.

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 16 Jan 2010, 10:58am
by Ron
reohn2 wrote:Re:- thread title
One word. Stupid!

With the state of these islands at present how any politrickian can waste a nano second of his/her time on such a stupid idea is beyond me.
Any voter who lives in Scotland could do a lot better than voting for any set of pratts assembled together and calling themselves a party(? :? )who spend their time considering such tripe.

:shock: Did you read this thread before posting?

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 16 Jan 2010, 11:06am
by reohn2
Ron wrote:
reohn2 wrote:Re:- thread title
One word. Stupid!

With the state of these islands at present how any politrickian can waste a nano second of his/her time on such a stupid idea is beyond me.
Any voter who lives in Scotland could do a lot better than voting for any set of pratts assembled together and calling themselves a party(? :? )who spend their time considering such tripe.

:shock: Did you read this thread before posting?


yes and read IRC's links,Have I missed something,is it all a hoax?

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 16 Jan 2010, 1:54pm
by irc
Ron wrote:
irc wrote:You'll find the proposal on page 47 of the Scottish Government's consultation document "Cycling Action Plan For Scotland".

A government proposal would be laid out in formal terms.
The questionnaire you refer to is nothing other than a set of (rather blunt) spurs designed to provoke discussion.



I stand corrected. It wasn't a proposal. It was though an option put forward in a Scottish Govt paper not a story someone invented.

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 16 Jan 2010, 11:38pm
by reohn2
irc wrote:
Ron wrote:
irc wrote:You'll find the proposal on page 47 of the Scottish Government's consultation document "Cycling Action Plan For Scotland".

A government proposal would be laid out in formal terms.
The questionnaire you refer to is nothing other than a set of (rather blunt) spurs designed to provoke discussion.



I stand corrected. It wasn't a proposal. It was though an option put forward in a Scottish Govt paper not a story someone invented.


As I said not something a sane man would give moments thought to.

Re: Scottish cycle road tax

Posted: 17 Jan 2010, 12:02am
by Ron
irc wrote:It was though an option put forward in a Scottish Govt paper not a story someone invented.

It was a question, not a proposal.
I quote from the document.
"Q10. Should all road users pay a road tax? If so, how much should it be for cyclists, and how could it be enforced?"

The worst thing about this whole business is The Scotsman newspaper misleading the public by printing an inaccurate report.