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If it ain't broke don't fix it

Posted: 4 Feb 2010, 9:02am
by groberts
For some reason I’ve only just come across this section of the forum and have not had time to review the posts here fully. This is obviously a very important decision for the CTC and its members: do we all get to vote without going to the AGM, if not why not? I am particularly concerned after reading Simon Legg’s NO case put in the recent Cycle magazine article: CTC should become a unified membership charity – YES or NO, pages 36 & 37. It was good that the magazine / CTC gave space for this item to be printed but we need to see their answers to the worrying points raised in the article and, in particular, explain the financial relationship between the CTC and the Trust; are there any posts on this forum which deal with these issues?

For more than thirty years my other main hobby has been scuba diving, during which I have been a member of the world’s oldest diving club, the BSAC. Through a number of ‘progressive’changes and other issues brought about by the then management / directors about ten years ago, the club was brought to its knees and has only just survived. I would hate to see the CTC go the same way. Sometimes change does not equal progress.

Re: If it ain't broke don't fix it

Posted: 4 Feb 2010, 10:02am
by gaz
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Re: If it ain't broke don't fix it

Posted: 4 Feb 2010, 11:04am
by glueman
The exec want to believe No campaigners have Greenspot jackets, khaki shorts and look no further than the Singing Kettle, while the Yes'ers wear Rohan and cycle to the corridors of power on their Bromptons.

If being in with the government du jour means carrying out their donkey work I'd like the old club back. Please. Campaign by being an effective force on the outside, using sound arguments and clear thinking, not being grateful for crumbs of comfort from the holder's of office. They'd spit us out if the wind changed, never mind social policy.

Re: If it ain't broke don't fix it

Posted: 4 Feb 2010, 11:13am
by bikepacker
If it ain't broke don't fix it.

Problem is, it is broken. Broken by 10 years of mis-management. As council and management is composed mainly of those who have contributed to the breakage, are their solutions going to fix the problem? I don't think so.

If an incompetent financial advisor lost you half of your assets, would you trust him and his methods, with the other half of your assets? Especially when you know he hasn't learned from his incompetence. That is what council is asking us to do.

Re: If it ain't broke don't fix it

Posted: 4 Feb 2010, 1:18pm
by patricktaylor
Good post, glueman. I've not been a member for very long but will remain one, and that sums up my view.