Cycling to Subsidise Car Drivers

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drsquirrel wrote:
You assume that all departments use the same appointment letters, if any at all (I've called up and gotten an appointment that had no letter due to short notice). As for setting a fine, you then have to enforce that fine, if someone refuses to you have to take them through the courts and they won't get back all their costs of doing this. I do think this system (along your lines) suits the best though, it just needs a unified system for the hospital. Either letter, or ticket given when booking in for an exit barrier.

Its quite simple to get a system up and running,just everyday clerical work.
As for patients with last minute,appointments,they could book in reception and be given the correct paper/card/whatever.

And I do say *all* don't deserve free parking, so some do and some don't, I'm not suggesting what should and what shouldn't cound. I know that the first day parking when someone goes in to give birth is free, maybe some other departments here do the same. And obviously this must depends from hospital to hospital
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IMO anyone either a patient,visitor,health care proffessional,etc,should park free.
In France hospitals have camping pitches for caravans and motorhomes with electric hook up and running water/drainage for hospital visitors who need to travel and stay near loved ones when they are inpatients,but that is a civilised country!


Regarding alternative parking, I do note above that other hospitals might not be the same as what I am referring to and situation will vary. You need to complain and petition to the hospital in question as there is less likely to be an overall decision on to make it free, try for the specific departments you think are important and maybe they will back you to whomever "decides" on the system for parking
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If I really thought it would do any good,I would,unfortunately I feel any complaint by me would be consigned to the round file in the corner.


From our hospitals cycle lock ups, it seems that a lot cycle in... it is PACKED, I reckon they need more, even the front "patient" cycle spaces are pretty full. I do wonder how many of them cycling are now cycling just because they started charging the few years ago? And how many would pack it in when parking now becomes free?

At the Christie there are no cycle parking facilities,and everytime we go I see the same bikes locked to the same benches outside of the main entrance.When Mrs R2 was staying there for treatment some time ago I visited her on the bike I even asked if there was any cycle parking racks or facilities but was told no and to "just lock it to a bench".The obvious isn't so obvious it seems in the NHSS.

But should she and other patients need to!! Is this a question? I'm not denying some deserve/need/etc parking.

Yes it was a question, sorry.
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Why does anyone need cycle parking facilities? Fit a stand then you can leave your bike just about anywhere otherwise lean it against a wall or use the traditional method of propping against a kerb with a pedal. If it's raining you don't need covered parking, a carrier bag over the seat will suffice.
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pete75 wrote:Why does anyone need cycle parking facilities? Fit a stand then you can leave your bike just about anywhere otherwise lean it against a wall or use the traditional method of propping against a kerb with a pedal.


If you tried that at my local supermarket it wouldn't be there when you got back I'm afraid.
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pete75 wrote:Why does anyone need cycle parking facilities? Fit a stand then you can leave your bike just about anywhere otherwise lean it against a wall or use the traditional method of propping against a kerb with a pedal. If it's raining you don't need covered parking, a carrier bag over the seat will suffice


I am curious are you saying to leave a bike unlocked at a hospital for 2 hours while visiting and expect it to be there when you returned to where it was.
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I don't even own a cycle lock so I can't lock a bike up anywhere and yes I do expect it to be where i left it when I get back. Never had one stolen. Either I'm touchingly innocent or have a complete lack of paronoia. Don't really frequent urban areas with my bike, the only very large city I've ever been to with my bike is York and I didn't get the impression that it is full of bike thieves.
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Pete you must live in a very nice area compared to the city I am in. Sounds nicer than here.
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Nicer - maybe but there are crimes other than theft. The wrong uns round here are more likely to sexually molest sheep than steal them !
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pete75 wrote:Nicer - maybe but there are crimes other than theft. The wrong uns round here are more likely to sexually molest sheep than steal them


If I knew the area I definitely would not wear a Sheepskin coat there. :shock:

As for supermarkets could it be that without the economy of scale using a car the items for sale might cost more. I prefer the local shops to the larger stores.
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