New form?

Commuting, Day rides, Audax, Incidents, etc.
User avatar
[XAP]Bob
Posts: 20306
Joined: 26 Sep 2008, 4:12pm

New form?

Post by [XAP]Bob »

Not been offered an 'Allegation of bad driving' form before - anyone else seen one?

The copper did suggest I might use a stack of them - which could easily be done.
A shortcut has to be a challenge, otherwise it would just be the way. No situation is so dire that panic cannot make it worse.
There are two kinds of people in this world: those can extrapolate from incomplete data.
User avatar
anothereye
Posts: 750
Joined: 8 Mar 2009, 4:56pm
Location: Haringey, North London

Re: New form?

Post by anothereye »

I could use a stack. Is it downloadable?
User avatar
[XAP]Bob
Posts: 20306
Joined: 26 Sep 2008, 4:12pm

Re: New form?

Post by [XAP]Bob »

Don't know yet - the nice copper was back on his way to the station, so he'll drop it off at mine tomorrow a little after 8...
A shortcut has to be a challenge, otherwise it would just be the way. No situation is so dire that panic cannot make it worse.
There are two kinds of people in this world: those can extrapolate from incomplete data.
Tom Richardson
Posts: 772
Joined: 25 Jun 2007, 1:45pm

Re: New form?

Post by Tom Richardson »

what will they do with the forms once you've filled them in? 'Bad driving' isn't against the law and is highly subjective

bad driving is good driving when something unexpectedly gets in the way
Starfire
Posts: 194
Joined: 7 Jan 2007, 10:50pm
Location: Haverigg, Cumbria.

Re: New form?

Post by Starfire »

I've noticed that many of the bad drivers where I live are displaying warning flags, these consist of a red cross on a white background. Very considerate of them to do this to warn other road users, I just get out of the way when I see one coming.
User avatar
anothereye
Posts: 750
Joined: 8 Mar 2009, 4:56pm
Location: Haringey, North London

Re: New form?

Post by anothereye »

Starfire wrote:I've noticed that many of the bad drivers where I live are displaying warning flags, these consist of a red cross on a white background. Very considerate of them to do this to warn other road users, I just get out of the way when I see one coming.
I think it's some kind of pre-collectivist tribalism.
_______________________________________________________________
http://www.roadusers.net/
reducing danger for all road users
User avatar
[XAP]Bob
Posts: 20306
Joined: 26 Sep 2008, 4:12pm

Re: New form?

Post by [XAP]Bob »

Starfire wrote:I've noticed that many of the bad drivers where I live are displaying warning flags, these consist of a red cross on a white background. Very considerate of them to do this to warn other road users, I just get out of the way when I see one coming.


This person evidently recognised their own limitations, and had two displayed.

Hang on - I've got one displayed as well, but it's on my flagpole, and has been there since St Georges day...
A shortcut has to be a challenge, otherwise it would just be the way. No situation is so dire that panic cannot make it worse.
There are two kinds of people in this world: those can extrapolate from incomplete data.
User avatar
squeaker
Posts: 4152
Joined: 12 Jan 2007, 11:43pm
Location: Sussex

Re: New form?

Post by squeaker »

[XAP]Bob wrote:Not been offered an 'Allegation of bad driving' form before - anyone else seen one?

IF in Sussex THEN do it online :D
"42"
User avatar
[XAP]Bob
Posts: 20306
Joined: 26 Sep 2008, 4:12pm

Re: New form?

Post by [XAP]Bob »

squeaker wrote:
[XAP]Bob wrote:Not been offered an 'Allegation of bad driving' form before - anyone else seen one?

IF in Sussex THEN do it online :D

Not in sussex ;(
A shortcut has to be a challenge, otherwise it would just be the way. No situation is so dire that panic cannot make it worse.
There are two kinds of people in this world: those can extrapolate from incomplete data.
GrahamNR17
Posts: 2828
Joined: 15 Nov 2009, 6:31pm

Re: New form?

Post by GrahamNR17 »

No such thing as a bad driver. Well, I've never met one :lol:
thirdcrank
Posts: 36740
Joined: 9 Jan 2007, 2:44pm

Re: New form?

Post by thirdcrank »

As squeaker has identified this is a paper version of the Sussex Police Operation Crackdown. The Metropolitan Police also accepts these reports online. I think - although I am only guessing - that these forms will be checked and where appropriate there will be a record made with a view to taking action under s 59 of the Police Reform Act. (I've rambled on about this several times on here recently.) The basic thing is that if reports of careless / inconsiderate driving continue after a warning the car can be seized. When [XAP]Bob gets his form, it may explain it all.

I'd suggest people consider something meic said about reporting incidents, recommending that you only do so in truly bad cases. The alternative is that you risk being treated as 'Operation Crackpot.'
User avatar
ferrit worrier
Posts: 5506
Joined: 27 Jun 2008, 7:58pm
Location: south Manchester

Re: New form?

Post by ferrit worrier »

anothereye wrote:
Starfire wrote:I've noticed that many of the bad drivers where I live are displaying warning flags, these consist of a red cross on a white background. Very considerate of them to do this to warn other road users, I just get out of the way when I see one coming.
I think it's some kind of pre-collectivist tribalism.


I've seen larger versions on houses must be some form of homing device.
Percussive maintainance, if it don't fit, hit it with the hammer.
User avatar
squeaker
Posts: 4152
Joined: 12 Jan 2007, 11:43pm
Location: Sussex

Operation Crackdonw

Post by squeaker »

thirdcrank wrote:As squeaker has identified this is a paper version of the Sussex Police Operation Crackdown.

From a recent acknowledgement:
The information supplied will be checked against a number of databases depending on the severity of the incident that has been reported. The most frequently used intervention is a letter of advice sent to the registered keeper of the vehicle from the Superintendent of the Road Policing Unit, however other options include a visit to the driver by a member of the Road Policing Unit, or for the most serious offences a targeted intervention which can lead to arrest and conviction at court.

Since August 2007 Crackdown has received over 20000 reports, this has generated over 1700 letters of advice, over 550 intelligence reports which have been disseminated to the Road Policing Unit, 125 uninsured vehicles have been seized, 220 warnings/seizures have been made using Section 59 of the Police Reform Act and 45 drivers have been arrested.

Over the last three months we have achieved an intervention rate of 1 in 4.
And no, I haven't been that busy :lol:
"42"
reohn2
Posts: 46095
Joined: 26 Jun 2009, 8:21pm

Re: New form?

Post by reohn2 »

Starfire wrote:I've noticed that many of the bad drivers where I live are displaying warning flags, these consist of a red cross on a white background. Very considerate of them to do this to warn other road users, I just get out of the way when I see one coming.


:D :D :D :D ,I like that and I was thinking of making a bedspread out of the ones I've found by the side of the road,though I've never been a lover of red and white :?
-----------------------------------------------------------
"All we are not stares back at what we are"
W H Auden
reohn2
Posts: 46095
Joined: 26 Jun 2009, 8:21pm

Re: New form?

Post by reohn2 »

anothereye wrote:
Starfire wrote:I've noticed that many of the bad drivers where I live are displaying warning flags, these consist of a red cross on a white background. Very considerate of them to do this to warn other road users, I just get out of the way when I see one coming.
I think it's some kind of pre-collectivist tribalism.


You're not a "trickcyclist" by any chance are you? :?
-----------------------------------------------------------
"All we are not stares back at what we are"
W H Auden
Post Reply