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Graham wrote:Jst switching on "notify". Cheers

Graham could you tell me what that means?

I would also be interested to know what a Pauche is?

On the subject I have been following this and have been wondering about the age of the posters. I am wondering if the attitudes to Tattoos and Metal hangings might come from our formative years and the society at the time.

Up to 35 years, Tattoos and Body piercing are common in the wider society so to people in this age bracket find these relatively normal.

35 to 45 Body piercing was more acceptable to that age group but Tattoos not seen as much, any that were done possibly hidden.

45 to 55 Ear piercing common for women and just about being seem of men. Tattoos were then frowned upon but not seen as something that bad.

55 and over, Only women had pierced ears as during the formative years you were told only certain types of males had Piercings or Tattoos.


I would find it interesting to know how the above fits in with the ages of people who have posted about this

Edwards wrote:

Graham wrote:Jst switching on "notify". Cheers

Graham could you tell me what that means?

I would also be interested to know what a Pauche is?

On the subject I have been following this and have been wondering about the age of the posters. I am wondering if the attitudes to Tattoos and Metal hangings might come from our formative years and the society at the time.

Up to 35 years, Tattoos and Body piercing are common in the wider society so to people in this age bracket find these relatively normal.

35 to 45 Body piercing was more acceptable to that age group but Tattoos not seen as much, any that were done possibly hidden.

45 to 55 Ear piercing common for women and just about being seem of men. Tattoos were then frowned upon but not seen as something that bad.

55 and over, Only women had pierced ears as during the formative years you were told only certain types of males had Piercings or Tattoos.


I would find it interesting to know how the above fits in with the ages of people who have posted about this

This is interesting. Growing up in darkest Bedfordshire in the early '70s (I'm 43) it was a case of ear piercing was common among women but only certain types of men had them and/or tattoos. (Tattoos on women was a definate no-no).

Thinking about it rationally this could explain why the first sight of an inked and/or metalworked person invokes a feeling of distaste, because when and where I was growing up it just wasn't done and those who did indulge were widely regarded as being somehow "lesser beings".*

I try not to be so irrational but some things, if drilled into you early enough, will stay with you for life (just like my love of bicycles and steam engines)

*Village and small town life in the early '70s - messing with minds for decades to come.

Edwards wrote:

Graham wrote:Jst switching on "notify". Cheers

Graham could you tell me what that means?

you can set a thread to notify you when new posts are made - but you have to make a post to do this.

Edwards wrote:I would find it interesting to know how the above fits in with the ages of people who have posted about this

As I said earlier, it's all based on the peer group you fit into. We choose our peers based on stereotypes and in doing so essentially stereotype ourselves.

Young people generally do have more open minds - but it's only temporary, over time their opinions 'set' and they'll settle into a mindset they're comfortable with whilst hanging around with people they're comfortable with. They're also more likely to be unsure of which peer group they feel happiest with and so chop and change before settling down.

This of course is overly simplistic, people rarely belong to a single group and as such stereotyping is a broad sweeping and by definition inaccurate mechanism. But that doesn't stop it being a good starting point.

Pauche is a misspelling of paunch (i.e overly large stomach).

I was thinking of the Nature or Nurture discussion. How our formative years do have a bearing on us in later life.

This is shown by the "only certain". That thought was formed when young and impressionable. It does not mean it is true today but is was certainly what you experienced when younger.

So, how many of the men on this thread shave their legs ?

I have pierced ears, but then I'm a woman (late 30s) so one piercing each side, as I have, is very conventional.

fimm wrote:So, how many of the men on this thread shave their legs

I do not but I do have male pattern baldness on one leg more that the other. It does look stupid I do not know why I do not remove the rest.

fimm wrote:I have pierced ears, but then I'm a woman (late 30s) so one piercing each side, as I have, is very conventional.

Do you find Tattoos on others of your age range strange or out of place.

The modern attitude for body art seems to have transgressed peer groups, with this younger generation. Thus to be more acceptable to more younger people than when some of us were younger.

Basically your age will determine some of your attitudes as your values and feelings will tend to reflect the whole of the society as it was when you were in your formative years, not just your peer group.

I am still interested to find out how people's attitudes fit in to those approximate age brackets.
Some Psychologists can roughly determine what your core values are from your date of birth.

Jonty wrote:Why are there so many young to middle-aged people with tattoos, pauches and with bits of metal danging from their ears, men as well as women?
Not long ago they would have starred in a freak show.
Has evolution gone into reverse?
Do any members of this Forum sport tattoos? If so, I'm sure they're very discreet.
jonty

Its the stone cladding effect,pillocks have their houses stone cladded but they never see it,of course their neghbours have to put up with the disaster, whilst pillocks sit in their front room looking at everyone else's nice house.
Of course its a freedom of choice thing,but..........

fimm wrote:So, how many of the men on this thread shave their legs ?

I have pierced ears, but then I'm a woman (late 30s) so one piercing each side, as I have, is very conventional.

I shave mine,mainly because they're so hairy every insect on the planet gets tangled up in them!
Its become so routine its like shaving my face,I also like the look of them when shaved!

As for poking holess in my body so I can stick bits of steel/plastic through to "adorn" myself,I've so far managed to avoid that particular fashion.
Tattoos,I had a lucky escape with that.
When completely plastered one Saturday afternoon in the middle of a misspent youth a mate and me decided someone scribbling on us with a needle filled with ink was a good idea and after a short walk from pub to the artist's "studio" found it closed,I made a mental note not to get drunk near a tattooists again.

Edwards wrote:

Graham wrote:Jst switching on "notify". Cheers

On the subject I have been following this and have been wondering about the age of the posters. I am wondering if the attitudes to Tattoos and Metal hangings might come from our formative years and the society at the time.

Keith
Very interesting correlating attitudes with age. I'm sure that this is true in my case at least to some degree. I'm 66 and grew up in the '40s and '50s when people were slim, the only people with tattoos was the occasionaly sailor and ear jewellery for men was unheard of. Many women even regarded having ears pierced as a sign of a "hussy".
I suppose I haven't moved with the times.
It was of course much easier to be slim then. Kids ran to school, boys did cross-country running and people walked or cycled to work often carrying their tools. Heavy manual work was the norm. It's not surprising that my generation is the fittest ever. However it was no paradise.
Also it was difficult to over-eat. Food rationing continued to 1953 and the range of foods was unbelievably limited compared with what is available today. Any child slightly over-weight by today's standards was called fatso which often had a remarkably slimming effect. Many poor people with large families simply went without.
I also think that today there is a correlation between obesity, heavy tattoing, metal ear hangings and class. I also suspect that middle class people tend to be more ambivalent towards tattooing but this may be changing.
I've also noticed what seems to be an association between heavy tattooing and steriod abuse. Some men with tattooes seem to go in for body building and have heavy muscles which could not have been provided by regular gym attendance. Sometimes these impressive upper-body muscles are accompanied by an incongruous paunch and spindly legs. Perhaps they want to look "hard" and get aspirational jobs as bouncers.
I had a conversation with a man yesterday who told me that his son failed to get into the navy because he had a tattoo. The offending tattoo was on the V between his thumb and forefinger and could not be concealed by clothing. If it had been on his arm and capable of being covered by his shirt there would have been no problem.
It's ironic to think that someone can't get into the navy today for having something which used to be almost part of the uniform!
Perhaps attitudes haven't changed that much?
jonty

reohn2 wrote:

fimm wrote:When completely plastered one Saturday afternoon in the middle of a misspent youth a mate and me decided someone scribbling on us with a needle filled with ink was a good idea

i was thinking something along the same lines. people with tattoos may simply be people who got drunk one time, maybe more. and how many of us have never got drunk and done summat silly?

Edwards wrote:... Some Psychologists can roughly determine what your core values are from your date of birth.

I should have thought that might have been easier the other way around.

Guess the age of the person who said this within the last couple of years:

The essential thing in a marriage in which the wife is intelligent is to give her space to have a life of her own ...

Born 30 Aug 1917 Denis Healey (Lord Healey) in a joint interview with his wife Edna (Lady Healey) about the equality of women quoted in her obituary today.

fimm wrote:So, how many of the men on this thread shave their legs ?

I have pierced ears, but then I'm a woman (late 30s) so one piercing each side, as I have, is very conventional.

Another thing which has completely changed is attitudes to male body hair. As recently as the early '80s it was considered manly to have a hairy chest. Just look at the early James Bond films. "Apparently" some men even resorted to wearing chest wigs.
The idea that men would wax their chest was inconceivable as it would have been akin to emasculation.
Do men who sport tattoes and ear jewellery also body wax and use moisturizer?
It seems that professional cyclists shave their legs so that they can be massaged more easily after a hard race; that I can understand.
I wonder if cyclists tend to have hairy chests and hairless legs? The men that is.
jonty

hubgearfreak wrote:

reohn2 wrote:

fimm wrote:When completely plastered one Saturday afternoon in the middle of a misspent youth a mate and me decided someone scribbling on us with a needle filled with ink was a good idea

i was thinking something along the same lines. people with tattoos may simply be people who got drunk one time, maybe more. and how many of us have never got drunk and done summat silly?

All the more reason to have fun poked at them for being stupid
I think anyone attempting to have a tattoo whilst drunk these days would be turned away by a tattooist as he/she would be frightened of the legal consequences.
As for someone with "a" tattoo they'd probably regret the stupidity their actions but the people I see covered in them seem to be in some kind of subculture,that says I'm hard/devil may care kind of attude, when mostly its just bad taste.

As for the metalwork freaks at least they can remove it when they come to there senses,some of course don't but thats upto them but its the rest of us who have to look at it,hence my stone cladding analogy.

Jonty wrote:.....................I wonder if cyclists tend to have hairy chests and hairless legs? The men that is.
jonty

Yes!

PS I can't answer for the wimmin