Stop Headway - Helmet compulsion in Northern Ireland

[Greg]

My offer is the same as before. Add me to the mailing list please.

[[XAP]Bob]

Can you pm stopheadway with your address.

[StopHeadway]

Yep, unfortunately I'm not psychic!

I need an address to be PM'd to me, then it's just the work of a jiffy...

[[XAP]Bob]

I've got a couple of evenings in Helsinki coming up - I'll see if I can find some time to go through the lists.

[Steady rider]

http://www.ctc.org.uk/resources/Campaig ... w-full.pdf

what else could be provided?

[StopHeadway]

Very good - excellent in fact.

Where is it though? As Joe Random coming onto the CTC site looking for this information, where would (/did) you go to find this?

[Steady rider]

yes, a summary needs to be on the opening page

also this may help.
http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=4641

info came directly from CTC via CycleClips, they send to RTR members

[coshgirl]

MHLs were passed by Northern Ireland MPs last night. How soon before Headway uses this a platform to start upping their campaign for mandatory helmets across the rest of the UK? Worrying times indeed. We need to get a few media friendly / famous faces out and about to counter the propaganda - and fast...

[irc]

That's NI off the list of places to tour in the UK then

[StopHeadway]

I'm confused - the BBC describes that it passed (by two votes - so either nobody was there or it's quite controversial?) and then talks about "if it becomes law". Can someone explain the procedure being followed?

I'd assumed the timescale was much longer than this, but if their procedure is anything like ours, there's some way to go from second reading to legislation.

Really, the silence on all fronts here is deafening. It will not take much for this to jump the Irish sea - we should be all over it.

[LANDSURFER74]

I'VE LEFT MY COMMENTS ON HEADWAY'S WEB SITE..... EVERY ONE LEAVE THEIRS.. let them be in no doubt of how you feel about this charity that believes it can control the civil liberties of the people...... be shepherds not sheep .... protest or it will be helmets for pedestrians and car drivers next ... these charities move from one campaign to another ... they must be stopped!!!!

[Nutsey]

let them be in no doubt of how you feel about this charity that believes it can control the civil liberties of the people

Shhh! Civil Liberties is a dirty phrase on this forum

[kwackers]

let them be in no doubt of how you feel about this charity that believes it can control the civil liberties of the people

Shhh! Civil Liberties is a dirty phrase on this forum

I think that's because a lot of people assume civil liberties is a right to do whatever they like. Whereas in my opinion it has a rider that says; 'providing it doesn't have a disproportionately adverse affect on others'.

[meic]

I was just coming on this thread to post that I had just read CTC's response to this proposed law. It was a very reasoned and referenced assesment on the detrimental effects of COMPULSION.
However it appears that it was released too late, what a mess they have made of this campaign. You can only assume that NI is just not worth their effort.

[StopHeadway]

To be fair, we get what we're given. I think it's quite ironic that in places where they *do* push helmets pretty hard / legislate, there is generally an increasingly vocal and influential campaign against - but in the UK we have a better position which many (cyclists) seem in a hurry to do away with.

Let's be honest, it's hard to understand how anyone could read even that brief note (which I agree is excellent) and still labour under the misimpression that helmet promotion is doing anyone a favour.