Subsidising motorists

[meic]

The fact that people have more wealth does directly affect other people.
They can use that wealth to buy dominance or privilege or whatever you call it.

That wealth excludes others from being able to buy a house to live in because a banker is so wealthy he can buy 10 houses just as toys.
The so called Justice system is heavily biased towards the rich in all respects. So your rights are diminished.
My neighbour can drive his Jaguar over my pride and joy and then after 6 months of County Court he can pay me half its value from his petty cash. If I scratch his Jaguar, I get my house repossessed to pay the repair bill. He gets to buy the house as well.

He can afford to use the court system and pay for expensive lawyers to win his case, or just to bankrupt me before it gets to court.

Then you can buy special education so that ensures your kids start off disadvantaged compared to his kids. Increasing the vicious circle, meaning lower parts of society are doomed to spend their life cleaning out the bogs of the rich on minimum wage instead of being at home enjoying their modern living standards.

[Nutsey]

Increasing the vicious circle, meaning lower parts of society are doomed to spend their life cleaning out the bogs of the rich on minimum wage instead of being at home enjoying their modern living standards.

I started poor and not complaining. Whinging like a scouser can't be good for ones health. Aspiration is the way forward.

[kwackers]

" Lord Layard has suggested that unhappiness results from society viewing how it is developing in terms of a zero sum game. What he means by this is that we might increasingly view the scramble to gain money and status in terms of a competitive game that has a winner and a loser. If I get a high ranking job with a large salary and lots of status, it means that you somehow lose out - either by not being able to get that same job or in some sort of psychological way. Such a perception of life being a zero sum game is, Layard suggests, the source of much unhappiness. "

http://www.bized.co.uk/current/mind/2006_7/080107.htm

You seem to have provided your own reference.

I'm actually find it hard to understand why anyone let's comparisons with other people's position affect their happiness but obviously some do. How to change those attitudes? Who knows.

Of course you find it hard, you're coming at it from the realms of the contented middle classes...
The fact is it exists and building a society that not only exaggerates the "zero sum game" by continually making a tiny percentage of people richer and richer it also has developed a media system that continually broadcasts the fact.

As for fixing the attitudes, fundamentally you can't. They're inbuilt. In a primitive society they wouldn't be an issue, but just like the wide availability of sugars and fats turns a large percentage of people obese then making it possible for some people to become incredibly wealthy and then holding them up as some form of demi-god also has adverse effects. We've built a society that allows people to indulge unhealthily and as a result have a unhealthy society.

As resources run out and standards of living fall more and more people including the comfortable middle classes are going to fall out of their comfortable existence and then you can expect more people to join the ranks of the miserable.
The fix is to move away from the selfish society we've built and towards a more just society based around more socialist needs. Once mass consumerism is no longer possible there won't be a choice anyway.

[kwackers]

Increasing the vicious circle, meaning lower parts of society are doomed to spend their life cleaning out the bogs of the rich on minimum wage instead of being at home enjoying their modern living standards.

I started poor and not complaining. Whinging like a scouser can't be good for ones health. Aspiration is the way forward.

Nutsey, you're living in the 80's. Maggie is nearly dead...

[meic]

Increasing the vicious circle, meaning lower parts of society are doomed to spend their life cleaning out the bogs of the rich on minimum wage instead of being at home enjoying their modern living standards.

I started poor and not complaining. Whinging like a scouser can't be good for ones health. Aspiration is the way forward.

You fall for that con?

It doesnt matter how clever the masses are, the whole point of this aspiration was that ONLY a tiny percentage of the masses can climb onto the back of their brothers.
We can not ALL move up because it is based on RELATIVE position. The injustice doesnt cease just because you have moved from victim to perpetrator.

It is when scousers stop whinging that you have to start worrying.
When they stop voicing concerns about the injustice (whinging) it probably means that they are going to do something about it and that generally isnt possible WITHIN the rules.

[hubgearfreak]

Maggie is nearly dead...

the champagne's in the fridge, ready for the day

they say the good go first, so she may make 200

[reohn2]

The fact that people have more wealth does directly affect other people.
They can use that wealth to buy dominance or privilege or whatever you call it.

That wealth excludes others from being able to buy a house to live in because a banker is so wealthy he can buy 10 houses just as toys.
The so called Justice system is heavily biased towards the rich in all respects. So your rights are diminished.
My neighbour can drive his Jaguar over my pride and joy and then after 6 months of County Court he can pay me half its value from his petty cash. If I scratch his Jaguar, I get my house repossessed to pay the repair bill. He gets to buy the house as well.

He can afford to use the court system and pay for expensive lawyers to win his case, or just to bankrupt me before it gets to court.

Then you can buy special education so that ensures your kids start off disadvantaged compared to his kids. Increasing the vicious circle, meaning lower parts of society are doomed to spend their life cleaning out the bogs of the rich on minimum wage instead of being at home enjoying their modern living standards.

Correct!
But don't forget we live in a demockracy

[reohn2]

they say the good go first, so she may make 200

I hope she suffers in the next 110 or so years then,evil is personified in that woman.

[reohn2]

But if being happy despite not being powerful or influential is delusional then so be it.

Better to be delusional and happy than not delusional and unhappy

Which reminds me of a chap in the village where I was bought up,he was known as Billy clapper and was termed by people as not being "all there".
Billy would stand at the crossroads all day long occasionally clapping with his hands alternatively in front and then behind,with a big smile on his face.
A story went around the village that a delivery truck stopped and the driver asked Billy the way to Westhoughton(a nearby town),Billy said he didn't know,the driver said to Billy "you're thick you are",Billy replied "yes but I'm not lost!". Billy was always happy.

[Malaconotus]

I started poor and not complaining. Whinging like a scouser can't be good for ones health. Aspiration is the way forward.

I hope you pulled up the ladder behind you like a good social climber. Seems most of you did... http://firstrung.co.uk/articles.asp?pag ... cat=44-0-0

(Edit to add primary source... http://cep.lse.ac.uk/about/news/Interge ... bility.pdf)

Graham

[Nutsey]

Love the leftwing thatcher ranting lol

How many years have to go by before you stop whining about her? These pro-union Neanderthal men just hated seeing a woman bossing them about imho, especially one from humble beginnings.

[Edwards]

Nutsey I do think you need to read up on the woman. When the far right politicians are saying somebody went to far you know something is wrong.

[Nutsey]

Too far? Plans in the pipeline to sort out her unfinished business

New law to stop striking unless 50% of members vote for it
Boundary changes to increase our seats by 10%+
Backdoor NHS reform
Labour council funding choked

Should all be done in one year - just imagine after 5 or 20

[reohn2]

We're trolling along on the crest of wave and the world is ours......

c'mon sing along, you remember the old song don't you?

[hubgearfreak]

Nutsey I do think you need to read up on the woman.

edwards, i do think we all need to ignore nutty