Subsidising motorists

[Edwards]

Hubbers we need Nutsey for the entertainment value. Just imagine the scouse type whinging from him when Cameron and his Eton friends not only cause the UK economy not to grow but to shrink.
Just imagine when black Wednesday is repeated and his shares and other assets collapse caused by the frog spawn of that woman.
At least when he is broke again he might learn a bit of humility and remember he is really a peasant.

[hubgearfreak]

Hubbers we need Nutsey for the entertainment value.

fair enough, but trying to reason with him?

[meic]

they say the good go first, so she may make 200

I hope she suffers in the next 110 or so years then,evil is personified in that woman.

I think she got worse press than those that came after her, yet each took things a bit further than she could (Tory and New Labour alike).

Unlike her disciples she was rather more straight forward and (how could she not be) a lot less dishonest. She was an almost principled enemy rather than a slimy traitor.

She didnt check the newspaper every morning to see what her views should be for that day.

As for not liking being told what to do by a woman, I noticed that most females were trying to disown her from their gender. Especially when they would complain that "All the top jobs are taken by men in this country" ignoring that two women had the top two posts.

[Malaconotus]

...Unlike her disciples she was rather more straight forward and (how could she not be) a lot less dishonest. She was an almost principled enemy rather than a slimy traitor. She didnt check the newspaper every morning to see what her views should be for that day...

I'll give you that, and would cast her no further than the seventh circle of hell. Blair, of course, makes it all the way to the ninth.

Graham

[Edwards]

Unlike her disciples she was rather more straight forward and (how could she not be) a lot less dishonest. She was an almost principled enemy rather than a slimy traitor.

She taught her disciples well.

The Iran Iraq war why has the question not been asked of where the chemical weapons came from?

Liberia and Charles Taylor who was the first country to recognise him as leader of that country and why?

Who ignored the Argentinian government when they declared that if Britain scraped the navy vessel in the are they would invade?

Who announced the exact date place and time outside 10 Downing St of the landings at Goose Green? Colonel H Jones of the Paras said on TV that was treason and he would do something about it when he returned, he died.

At least that woman can not be blamed for the 25% Bank of England base rate that the conservitive policiees caused.

[kwackers]

Unlike her disciples she was rather more straight forward and (how could she not be) a lot less dishonest. She was an almost principled enemy rather than a slimy traitor.

She taught her disciples well.

The Iran Iraq war why has the question not been asked of where the chemical weapons came from?

Liberia and Charles Taylor who was the first country to recognise him as leader of that country and why?

Who ignored the Argentinian government when they declared that if Britain scraped the navy vessel in the are they would invade?

Who announced the exact date place and time outside 10 Downing St of the landings at Goose Green? Colonel H Jones of the Paras said on TV that was treason and he would do something about it when he returned, he died.

At least that woman can not be blamed for the 25% Bank of England base rate that the conservitive policiees caused.

Let's not forget the state of the country though before she came into power.
The basic problem with all politicians is they can stay in power for too long.

[reohn2]

Unlike her disciples she was rather more straight forward and (how could she not be) a lot less dishonest. She was an almost principled enemy rather than a slimy traitor.

She refused sanctions against South Africa whilst her husband,an equally dispicable character,had all his money in SA mining and in oil in other countries with known oppresive regimes.
Its also my understanding that she was the instigator of the MP's expenses scandle by allowing such blatent law breaking go through on the nod as she'd put the blocks on MP's salary rises.

She didnt check the newspaper every morning to see what her views should be for that day

She didn't need to,she only had to look in the mirror.

She made greed a virtue,a dispicable,sickening,example of humanity,matched only by Tony Blair.
We do however have another one or even two,in the making.

[irc]

The fact that people have more wealth does directly affect other people.
They can use that wealth to buy dominance or privilege or whatever you call it.

That wealth excludes others from being able to buy a house to live in because a banker is so wealthy he can buy 10 houses just as toys.
The so called Justice system is heavily biased towards the rich in all respects. So your rights are diminished.
My neighbour can drive his Jaguar over my pride and joy and then after 6 months of County Court he can pay me half its value from his petty cash. If I scratch his Jaguar, I get my house repossessed to pay the repair bill. He gets to buy the house as well.

We as there are plenty houses on the market the rich obviously don't own them all.

If you scratch someones car why not just pay them rather than denying liability, going to court and losing your house through legal costs.?

Anyway I've managed to get through life without experiencing the court system as either an accused or a party in civil litigation. If you are losing sleep over it buy legal cover as an add on to your house insurance. I hear it's cheap.

[irc]

At least that woman can not be blamed for the 25% Bank of England base rate that the conservitive policiees caused.

25%? I think your memory is failing you. If you are going to hate someone try and get the facts right.

[kwackers]

Anyway I've managed to get through life without experiencing the court system as either an accused or a party in civil litigation. If you are losing sleep over it buy legal cover as an add on to your house insurance. I hear it's cheap.

Actually that's just as well, in reality recourse to legal means in this country is the preserve of the wealthy. Whilst you can buy legal cover for your house insurance it doesn't offer you the means to sue someone and indeed when you read the small print it covers you for pretty much nothing other than someone suing you for injury.
If you have a grievance against someone which can't be resolved any other way you need deep pockets.

[Mick F]

Torys sold off all the council houses. Not all, just the bigger ones that could raise more money. Try finding a 4 bedroom council house now.

Now they want to sell off the nation's forests. Perhaps they'll only sell the good ones and leave the dross for the Forestry Commission to look after. People won't want to go into poor forestry, and they will have to pay to go into the good ones.

This mess that the western world is in is a gift to the Tory ideals: Sell it all off! Get rid of public transport, get rid of the trains, make the poor go to the workhouse, make only the rich be able to afford to live. Forget the needy, forget the unemployed, ignore the unions, run down all the local services. Hate the huddled masses!

As you can tell, I didn't vote for the them and will never do.

[irc]

Now they want to sell off the nation's forests. Perhaps they'll only sell the good ones and leave the dross for the Forestry Commission to look after. People won't want to go into poor forestry, and they will have to pay to go into the good ones.

But it doesn't matter who owns the forests the public still has the legal right of access for recreation whether by bike or on foot. We even have the right to camp in them.

Or at least that's the law in Scotland. Perhaps what you need in England is your own parliament to get some decent access laws passed?

[Mick F]

Yes, in Scotland the law of Trespass is different.
I understand that most folk think that Trespass laws don't exist in Scotland, but it's not true.

I'm not Scottish. Full stop. I have lived and worked there in total for nearly twelve years, complete with a family, mortgage and social life. I'm aware that there is a Right to Roam situation there, but Trespass in England and Wales is just for 'being there'. In Scotland the landowner has to prove 'damage' by the alleged trespasser ie crops, livestock, land.

Theoretically, a bike rider will be guilty of Trespass in Scotland if he 'damages' the ground.

[meic]

I dont know if there is any law against trespass in England in Wales.

Landowners have the power to make trespassers leave, by reasonable force if needed. However there is no fine or penalty, only the normal rules of liability in that if you damage something you can be sued to get compensation.

[Mick F]

Maybe the law is the same then?

I just know it's worded differently.