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perhaps we should?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... sease.html

If that really were true, I should have almost zero psi in the old tubes - as it is my doc's fitting me with a presta valve for when he takes the samples - and panniers for the seemingly endless medication

Steve

Always black tea. Greybeard could almost be ambodach. Means nearly the same anyway and end result very similar.

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Never back, always with a dash of semi-skimmed - and no sugar. I gave that up nearly 30years ago.

I think that this means black tea in the German sense rather than the British sense.

Black tea being a different state of tea leaves rather than the absence of milk.

Also my interpretation is that they didnt even use real tea so yet another dodgy bit of interpreting the results/doing the wrong experiment.

A drop of 2 to 3 mmHg is trivial. Drink whatever you like.

Audax67 wrote:Drink whatever you like.

will do. but i can't decide whether that's orvietto, IPA or glenlivet

hubgearfreak wrote:perhaps we should?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... sease.html

I always drink black tea,black.
I had my blood pressure tested last week,my doctor said it was a little low,so it must be right.

PS I also quite like Fennel tea too

I'm not allowed black tea 'cos of the oxalates. Not that I was that keen on it anyway. So now I sup either lemon & ginger, cinnamon, or pomegranate tea by the bucket full.

meic wrote:
Also my interpretation is that they didnt even use real tea so yet another dodgy bit of interpreting the results/doing the wrong experiment.

They gave some people tea and others a tea flavoured placebo. This is quite normal in testing anything which might affect health and is probably done to stop any psychological factors affecting the results. Why do you think this is dodgy?

meic wrote:I think that this means black tea in the German sense rather than the British sense.

Black tea being a different state of tea leaves rather than the absence of milk.

Also my interpretation is that they didnt even use real tea so yet another dodgy bit of interpreting the results/doing the wrong experiment.

I too thought that was meant by black tea but the Telegraph reporter clearly didn't:

Previous studies suggest adding milk to tea does not affect the body's ability to absorb polyphenols.

The university's own news item (on which the article was possibly based) made no mention of milk. Unfortunately I can't access the actual Research Letter, published in the Journal without paying.

As pete75 says they did use real tea for the experimental group but the control group had a placebo with the same flavour and caffeine content, but not derived from tea.

The Telegraph reporter has an unusual way of describing blood pressure, too!

Volunteers with normal to high blood pressure were given three drinks a day containing 429 milligrams of the plant chemicals polyphenols – the equivalent of eight and a half teas a day.

Well my interpretation of this is that they were not given actual tea.

Have you seen the real test rather than the Daily Telegraph chinese whisper version?

Eight and a half!

I have two or three in the morning, and perhaps another in the afternoon - of real tea and real milk.


(Later on, I drink beer!)

meic wrote:

Volunteers with normal to high blood pressure were given three drinks a day containing 429 milligrams of the plant chemicals polyphenols – the equivalent of eight and a half teas a day.

Well my interpretation of this is that they were not given actual tea.

Have you seen the real test rather than the Daily Telegraph chinese whisper version?

The University of Western Australia, ‘University News’ says:

In the study, 95 Australian participants aged between 35 and 75 were recruited to drink either three cups of black tea or a placebo with the same flavour and caffeine content, but not derived from tea.

The extract from the paper on the ‘Archives of Internal Medicine’ website isn’t long enough to include the relevant part:
http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/172/2/186

Anyone who can sign on via “Athens” or Institutions that participate in the UK Access Management Federation for Education and Research could read the full thing.