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and I suggest that you leave our volunteer moderators alone because I don't want to have to take over if they get driven out.

Appeal to emotion - please don't use these

Whether it is an appeal to emotion or not I shall continue to do so, even if it is against your wishes.

Hemipode is a volunteer and doing a job which benefits me for no reward.

Now even if he has made just one tiny mistake in not answering your question to your 100% satisfaction he still has my total support.
So yet again I will ask you to get off his back he is doing us a favour and doesnt deserve this sort of hassle. It is in my interests to show him support in this.

As for protecting children,

I was not talking about protecting children but maintaining a forum that all parents (& teachers), even the prudish ones, are happy to let their children visit freely.

skidd wrote:... I am asking don't diss ....

We're into mote and beam territory here.

No I wouldn't. I would like to think I would have raised the point about 'guc*i' and PM'd the author answering his questions along the lines of

"whoops, got it wrong with Guc*i, I'll see if we can do owt about it, but we do have these filters, sorry, please be patient", and

"Yeah, you have a good point about swearing, after all they are only words, but we have to be politic in this world, and we do have policy regarding it that is established on these forums. (look at the top of the list of topics up a level). because of this policy I have had to take down your posts, but, please keep posting. Here is a moderatator you can bring it up with, and by all means edit the post to remove the swearing. Sounds like a good couple of bikerides though!, I spent midsummer in the Orkneys in 2010 and had a great time cycling up to Westray."

When you volunteer to become a moderator and put all of this into practice, I will be very grateful and offer you the same support that I offer the present volunteers. That is a promise.

meic wrote:When you volunteer to become a moderator ..........

The tone and content of Skidd's posts seem to suggest that he wants to be a moderator. Or at least he wants to change what the mods have decided. Perhaps he can put some constructive thoughts in writing.

I find him tiresome.

Dear skidd ... just to clarify the situation.

The questioning of trade name censoring is not an issue in respect of moderation. It is a system of the anti-spam software used on this forum. It is now probably redundant due to a tightening up of the approval procedure so may be removed in the near future.

The only reason your posts were Sin Binned was the use of bad language & attempted bypass of the filtering system.

Just for the record ... in answer to your query

skidd wrote:I consider it an abuse of fish that Hemipode uses this forum to talk about torturing them (http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=30787&p=247924&hilit=hemipode#p247924) and imagine his pleasure in puncturing an animal's body parts and then dragging it against its will while it fights for its life merely to brag about it and throw it back in is certainly unbalanced. If Hemipode considers that this is a form of abuse, well I am proud of that, just as any deserved criticism might be interpreted so.

skidd wrote:Hemipode: If I have got anything wrong, please illustrate it. If you don't like fishing, let us know, if you don't want to brag about it, why do you appear to do so on the thread quoted? If you never chuck 'em back I'm sorry for assuming.

They are very tasty thankyou ... especially smoked.

Regards,

Hemipode

Third crank quoted:

skidd wrote:... I am asking don't diss ....

By all means use stops to miss out blocks of text that are not pertinent to a point, but this actualy uses them to take what I wrote out of context. I actually wrote "I am asking don't diss someone 'cos they disagree occasionally, by all means deconstruct the points they are making, but please use evidence." There is little discrepancy between my expecations of others compared to what I would do myself.


Meic wrote:

I was not talking about protecting children but maintaining a forum that all parents (& teachers), even the prudish ones, are happy to let their children visit freely.

Can you envisage that some parents and teachers might not be happy to have censorship imposed upon their families or pupils? "[ we are thieving scum ]" I find particularly insidious. How does it sit with the site ethos you describe?
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Mick F wrote:

The tone and content of Skidd's posts seem to suggest that he wants to be a moderator.

How? (I don't).

Or at least he wants to change what the mods have decided.

Kind of correct; does anybody here actually think that replacing 'Guc*i' with '[ we are thieving scum ]' is a good idea?

Perhaps he can put some constructive thoughts in writing.

I have put constructive thoughts in writing, at least very much more constructive than

I find him tiresome.

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Hemipode wrote:

in answer to your query ...... They are very tasty thankyou ... especially smoked.

What query are you talking about?

Tiresome.

Mods informed.

"Tiresome" Yeah good point Mick F in Cornwall. I wonder why nobody will actually answer my questions though. I will take a leaf out of your book and clog the forum up with repetition. Do you think I should simplyfy them, and do them one at a time in big letters and offer a multiple choice so you can at least have a guess? I haven't had much of a result yet, so I suppose a change in strategy might work! here goes:

Dear anybody who posts on this thread.

Please please answer this question, even if you don't want to, just humour me, spread the love. Feel free to add a comment. Delete, Cut n Paste as appropriate

Do you think that replacing 'Guc*i' with '[ we are thieving scum ]' is a good idea?

.......... YES .......... NEUTRAL .......... NO .......... DON'T KNOW ..............

Thanks, Steve

Yes, this is getting tiresome because although you obviously think that you have a point to prove, I doubt that anyone else is in the least bit interested, and that the thread is becoming car-crash viewing with people only looking in to see how pointless it all gets.

I believe that your questions have been answered but will reiterate so that you are in no doubt. Yes, changing the brand/manufacturer names was a very good idea when we were getting over run with spammers because it made spamming us pointless for them. Would it be a good idea to do it now? No, because other anti-spam measures have since been introduced so such a change would not be needed. However, it is a legacy bit of code, and has, up to this point never caused a real problem because in the past when people have come across it they have made a polite query about it, had a quiet chuckle when it was all explained and carried on using the forum happily.

Thus, this particular bit of code was not taken out as it was doing no harm, and didn't warrant admin doing the change on their own time (because they are volunteers and not paid for this work).

However, it now looks like it is a problem as it seems to have prompted someone to get very upset and start breaking the forum rules on bad language (including therein sexist and homophobic phrases - another no-no) and then started him trawling through one of the forum staff's past posts in the hope of finding something to use against him in some sort of petty points scoring exercise. This is obviously not a healthy course of action for the forum or its users, and the continuing repetition and outrage in this thread is just wasting everyone's time and not doing anyone any good - so, as the original question has been answered, I'm going to lock it before it gets totally pointless or anyone is tempted to cross the line again.

Nonetheless, we can see if admin can spare some of his free time to take out the anti-spam precaution that started this, or at least put it onto the list for the next round of updates. Thus, it might get done, but on the other hand he might decide that as it is only a problem for around 1 in 18000 forum users, it is very low priority so I'd advise that breaths are not held.

Have a nice day now, y'all.