Come back, Baron Tebbit!

[byegad]

It was a clever tactic.
1. The government have trousered a lot of tax on fuel just before the end of the financial year, this will make the figures look less bad on the economy.
2. The press have stopped talking about granny taxes, U turns and anything else bad for the Condemolitions.
3. They forced the union to hold off on their strike even after the employers forced through the changes before negotiations have finished, or gone to ACAS.

[thirdcrank]

4. While postal votes in Bradford West gave labour a sore Ed.

[reohn2]

and the NHS bill went through

[Edwards]

So the condems condemned us to this nonsense so that they could bury bad news. After all it was the strike that never happened, I wonder just how likley it was to have done so?

Either that or you lot are more cynical than me.

[broadway]

Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought it was bad practice to store petrol in a steel container due to the risk of sparks (which is why I threw away my Paddy Hopkirk steel can ages ago and replaced it with a 10-litre plastic one from Halfords).

What is petrol stored in,in vehicles?

More likely to do with the cans rusting if they get damp.

[reohn2]

Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought it was bad practice to store petrol in a steel container due to the risk of sparks (which is why I threw away my Paddy Hopkirk steel can ages ago and replaced it with a 10-litre plastic one from Halfords).

What is petrol stored in,in vehicles?

More likely to do with the cans rusting if they get damp.

And car's petrol tanks don't get damp?
Which is more likely to become punctured in household storage,plastic or metal?(long before it gets a chance to rust).
I'm not condemning plastic petrol containers,just saying that metal ones are perfectly safe.
Its stupid people that cause petrol fires by smoking whilst decanting it,or spilling it in an enviroment where its likely to ignite then failing to clean it up and remove to a save place.
Motorcycles have,for the most part, had steel or aluminium petrol tanks directly above the source of ignition since their invention,without many incidents of fire,if simple precautions are taken when filling up alls well.
I digress but it goes to show people will believe whatever they're told to believe,in this case by a senior minister (who should IMO have his spherics hanging from a rusty nail,by any sane train of thought,but I'd suggest it was carefully planned) it was,"don't panic theres not going to be a strike but top up you're tanks.........just incase"
Now we know theres not going to be a strike but the fuel is sold the tax revenue is boosted,now what do we think will happen to fuel prices next?

[patricktaylor]

Perhaps I'm wrong but I thought it was bad practice to store petrol in a steel container due to the risk of sparks (which is why I threw away my Paddy Hopkirk steel can ages ago and replaced it with a 10-litre plastic one from Halfords).

What is petrol stored in,in vehicles?

More likely to do with the cans rusting if they get damp.

It seems I was wrong: Petroleum - frequently asked questions (HSE) - and my 10 litre plastic container from Halfords is illegal. When the fuss has died down I must invest in a proper Jerry Can or two.

[Mick F]

Sod the rules.
Common sense is what's required.

Apart from the car, I have:
Petrol mower - unleaded.
Two chainsaws - two-stroke.
Powerful brushcutter - two stroke.
Hedge trimmer - two-stroke.

When I had a Mini last, I used to syphon off from the petrol tank. Easy in a Mini.

Now we have a modern petrol car, syphoning is almost impossible, so I have two plastic 5ltr containers for unleaded, and another plastic 5ltr container for mixed petrol and oil. These are stored in a shed with the rest of the garden machinery 25yds from the house.

At this present moment, I'm nearly out of unleaded, and perhaps only a litre of two-stoke. I would have gone and topped up over the last few days, but I would feel rather embarrassed to fill cans - accused of hoarding?

[daveg]

Sod the rules.
Common sense is what's required.

Apart from the car, I have:
Petrol mower - unleaded.
Two chainsaws - two-stroke.
Powerful brushcutter - two stroke.
Hedge trimmer - two-stroke.

When I had a Mini last, I used to syphon off from the petrol tank. Easy in a Mini.

Now we have a modern petrol car, syphoning is almost impossible, so I have two plastic 5ltr containers for unleaded, and another plastic 5ltr container for mixed petrol and oil. These are stored in a shed with the rest of the garden machinery 25yds from the house.

At this present moment, I'm nearly out of unleaded, and perhaps only a litre of two-stoke. I would have gone and topped up over the last few days, but I would feel rather embarrassed to fill cans - accused of hoarding?

There is a petrol station at the end of my road and that is where I would normally buy my fuel. Pointless even trying last week as it was a constant queue, I did have a think about walking down with my lawn mower and standing in the queue with that if only to demonstrate to all the sheep how daft they were being.

All worth while today however as that nice Mr Hague tells us that it was all worthwhile as we are now better prepared. Little does he know that my lawn mower is still on empty!

[The Mechanic]

So the condems condemned us to this nonsense so that they could bury bad news. After all it was the strike that never happened, I wonder just how likley it was to have done so?

Either that or you lot are more cynical than me.

Now you're learning!

[The Mechanic]

I cannot believe the idiocy of the ministers. Keep a jerry can in the garage? This is the government's advice?

I hear that sales of jerry cans have gone through the roof - perhaps they may go through the roof in an explosive way too!

Doesn't this whole issue show just how stupid the UK public is!

Err? Yes!

[Edwards]

Now you're learning!

So are you lot more cynical than me?

Now that there is a hose pipe ban and it is raining I am starting a rumor that there is going to be a shortage of sun screen, so buy now while stocks last.

[patricktaylor]

Now you're learning!

So are you lot more cynical than me?

Now that there is a hose pipe ban and it is raining I am starting a rumor that there is going to be a shortage of sun screen, so buy now while stocks last.

Jerry-Can Maude should be advising people to buy water butts. I don't need one personally of course, as the reservoirs near me are pretty full.

[reohn2]

.............. I don't need one personally of course, as the reservoirs near me are pretty full.

Shhhhh.... Londoners read this forum!

[thirdcrank]

Too late now for water butts if it's never going to rain again. Perhaps the thread should be renamed "Come back Baron Howell." Now he was a a govt., minister who got quick results.

It's also worth remembering that he displayed in common with Norman Tebbit a determination to ignore terrorist violence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Howell,_Baron_Howell