Come back, Baron Tebbit!

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NUKe
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Mick F wrote:Now we have a modern petrol car, syphoning is almost impossible, so I have two plastic 5ltr containers for unleaded, and another plastic 5ltr container for mixed petrol and oil. These are stored in a shed with the rest of the garden machinery 25yds from the house.

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Unleaded petrol contains benzene as an anti-knock agent, which is highley carcongenic, thats why modern cars are non syphonable and even stop you sniffing the fumes, lead was poisonous Benzen is just plain nasty
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"Older readers may remember the catchy jingle:

....Super Shell with ICA,
Gives more go for what you pay,
Family motorists in the know,
Stop for Super Shell and go....


ICA = ignition control additive.

I suppose they could hardly have had a jingle along the lines

... Super Shell is full of lead
It will kill your children dead....
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Cunobelin
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I always love the reporting of these things..... and the total ignorance of the reporters!

Mike Penning said Cabinet Minister Francis Maude had misunderstood the size of a jerrycan, which is 20 litres.


Oh dear Mr Penning , you and the reporter are incorrect!

A Jerrycan is not 20 litres!

The definition under the ADR ( European Agreement concerning the International Carriage of Dangerous Goods by Road) act of 2011 (Chapter 1.2) a jerrican is defined as :

"a metal or plastics packaging of rectangular or polygonal cross-section with one or more orifices"


The 5 litre plastic ones are within the legal definition of Jerrican, as there is no specification as to size
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meic
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I am so relieved to find it wasnt just me who was thinking the same thing as Mr Maude.
Fortunately I tend to call them petrol cans and the large ones Jerry cans but I didnt think that actually constituted definitions so much as habit.

Now at what point to we have to start filling up our tanks for the second wave of panic buying?
Does the day of the break down of talks seem good? Or should we wait until the strike date is announced? :twisted:

This rule about only having 10 litres is a bit annoying as I want one can each of petrol, premixed 2 stroke, diesel and paraffin.
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meic wrote: ... paraffin.
Unless something has changed, I don't think paraffin is covered. The regs used to say, a maximum of two, 2 gallon containers. Once upon a time they had to be metal. In the new money, 2 gall was loosely converted to the present max of 10 litres. When plastic was made acceptable, the max for plastic containers was set at 5 litres. The regs used to say that containers had to be marked "Petroleum spirit - Highly inflammable."

Those quantities seem to be confirmed by this:

The Law
Storage of fuel at home or the workplace (unless specifically licensed) is restricted by law to either metal containers with a maximum capacity of 10 litres or approved plastic containers of a maximum 5 litres capacity. These containers should be designed for the purpose and must be fitted with a screw cap or closure to prevent leakage of liquid or vapour.

Petrol and diesel fuel should be stored in no more than two 10 litre metal containers or two 5 litre plastic containers. They should be clearly labeled as to their contents


http://www.fireservice.co.uk/safety/fuel-storage
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meic
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Ah, I had better make every thing safe by pouring one of those cans of petrol into one of the 21 litre petrol tanks on the motorbikes, in the same garage.
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A report here on how the increase in the price of petrol is affecting the well-known chain of cycle retailers .....Halfords.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... fords.html
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thirdcrank wrote:A report here on how the increase in the price of petrol is affecting the well-known chain of cycle retailers .....Halfords.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... fords.html



The high price of petrol has caused a significant decrease in driving, according to Halfords.


Can't say I've noticed.
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Got "done over" twice in the last couple of months by CalMac employees searching vehicles at ferry terminal for fuel cans. Empty ones are deemed as bad as full as they are allegedly full of vapour which is more dangerous! If you are off to any of the islands this holiday season don't even think about taking cheap petrol or diesel with you.Full your vehicle fuel tank by all means but this fuel is deemed less explosive than in loose cans. :roll:
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