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Rdigeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 17 May 2012, 9:36am
by BSRU
Does anyone know which koolstop/swissstop pads should be used on a Rdigeback Panorama?
I should be getting my Rdigeback Panorama in a week or so and want to change the pads as soon as it arrives.

Re: Rdigeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 17 May 2012, 10:16am
by reohn2
What brakes are fitted?

Re: Rdigeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 17 May 2012, 10:17am
by fatboy
The slide in inserts for V-brakes should fit.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/kool-stop-v-bra ... f-inserts/ should do

Re: Rdigeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 17 May 2012, 10:17am
by fatboy
reohn2 wrote:What brakes are fitted?
Shimano R550 Cantis

Re: Rdigeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 17 May 2012, 11:08am
by BSRU
fatboy wrote:The slide in inserts for V-brakes should fit.

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/kool-stop-v-bra ... f-inserts/ should do


Yes, from what I can see it should be V brake cartridges/inserts, just wanted to make sure before purchasing.

Re: Rdigeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 17 May 2012, 10:42pm
by bogmyrtle
BSRU wrote:want to change the pads as soon as it arrives.


Why?

Re: Ridgeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 17 May 2012, 11:43pm
by pga
I have the same bike - suggest you change the brakes instead to Tektro 720's. I found the Shimano ones pretty poor. I bought Koolstops to fit to the 720's but have never got round to it, finding the Tektro ones ok.

Re: Ridgeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 18 May 2012, 6:21am
by johnb
pga wrote:I have the same bike - suggest you change the brakes instead to Tektro 720's. I found the Shimano ones pretty poor. I bought Koolstops to fit to the 720's but have never got round to it, finding the Tektro ones ok.



I have the same Shimano brakes on two different tourers with kool stop dual compound pads and find them to be great. Would highly recommend them.

Re: Rdigeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 18 May 2012, 9:27am
by BSRU
bogmyrtle wrote:
BSRU wrote:want to change the pads as soon as it arrives.


Why?

Because stock pads tend to be complete pants especially in the wet.

Re: Rdigeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 18 May 2012, 10:44am
by CREPELLO
BSRU wrote:
bogmyrtle wrote:
BSRU wrote:want to change the pads as soon as it arrives.


Why?

Because stock pads tend to be complete pants especially in the wet.
Really? When I bought some of those Shimano canti's I changed the pads because the Shimano compound was sold as a wet weather compound - fine for the wet, but they would eat rims for breakfast.
I too changed the canti pads for Koolstop.

I'm actually using Shimano pads at the moment for the express purpose of wearing down my rims :lol: Why? Because I bought a dodgy pair of rims, which in order to smooth out the wobbly brake tracks the Shimano pads have been deployed with great success. They're fine in the rain and boy can you hear that aluminium being worn away. And then see it in the excess grey sludge around the bike.

Re: Rdigeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 18 May 2012, 1:42pm
by BSRU
CREPELLO wrote:Really? When I bought some of those Shimano canti's I changed the pads because the Shimano compound was sold as a wet weather compound - fine for the wet, but they would eat rims for breakfast.
I too changed the canti pads for Koolstop.

I'm actually using Shimano pads at the moment for the express purpose of wearing down my rims :lol: Why? Because I bought a dodgy pair of rims, which in order to smooth out the wobbly brake tracks the Shimano pads have been deployed with great success. They're fine in the rain and boy can you hear that aluminium being worn away. And then see it in the excess grey sludge around the bike.


Just from my very limited experience of the two new bikes I have purchased in the recent past, even the Secteur Comp I own was very scary with wet rims using the pads it came with, immediately changed to KoolStops.

Re: Rdigeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 18 May 2012, 4:02pm
by Tonyf33
I thought V-brake pads and cantilever pads had differing profiles :?: , in any case why not try the pads that come on the bike first before you start to mess about, half the time people reckon x pad has improved braking (& half the time it may well do) but I reckon a lot of it is psychological and if one were able to check there probably wouldn't be a great deal in it and as much to do with actual set up.

Re: Ridgeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 22 May 2012, 3:25pm
by rich100
pga wrote:I have the same bike - suggest you change the brakes instead to Tektro 720's. I found the Shimano ones pretty poor. I bought Koolstops to fit to the 720's but have never got round to it, finding the Tektro ones ok.


I bought some Tektro's, 520's I think, for my Panorama build (same brakes different pads). I found that they didnt quite fit right on the canti studs, too much play when the bolt was done up, as the mounting sleeve of the brake arms depth was slighly smaller than the length of the stud, so there was a couple of mm that the arms could slide up and down between the base of the stud and the head of the bolt.

I then went for the r550's and initially they seem great, setup seemed quite easy and they stop well for the moment but have yet to put some miles on the bike. Coming from v brakes I was a bit worried but happy so far.

The tektros I'll try on my restore project, if no good they'll go in the bin lol.

So the kool stop pads will fit to the shimano shoes then? straight swap?

Re: Ridgeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 22 May 2012, 7:12pm
by CREPELLO
rich100 wrote:[The tektros I'll try on my restore project, if no good they'll go in the bin lol.

Please don't do that. Sell em on :)
So the kool stop pads will fit to the shimano shoes then? straight swap?
Yes.

It's reassuring to hear someone whose come from V brakes say that canti's are actually ok :D

I have the BR550's too. The thing I hate most about any brakes is if they squeal. I've got squealage down to a minimum now of just heavy braking down steep hills.

Re: Rdigeback Panorama Brake Pads

Posted: 22 May 2012, 10:08pm
by rich100
I did want vee brakes on this bike but there was so much agro to get them working with travel agents etc, I gave up and went full circle to the 550s which is what ridgeback specify on them in the first place. The job was much easier with the bridge wire with the sheath centering the cable correctly, made for a seemingly simple setup considering I'm new to them, unless I've missed something :shock: plus the nice shiny finish always helps :D

I've not had any problems with squeeling yet, but the washers on the shoes should help with setting the toe in.