About cycling over a zebra crossing ...

[Si]

Because 'eileithyia' has been using the forum for ages and has made it pretty clear that she is a she!

[ukdodger]

Because 'eileithyia' has been using the forum for ages and has made it pretty clear that she is a she!

Ah.. Never met her before. But as to whether she was merely making an observation or condoning her own behaviour. I think that's a matter of opinion.

[al_yrpal]

Anyone who is tolerant of pavement cycling has no knowledge of old people who may be pedestrians. They often don't hear too well, see too well or move too well, they are often very vulnerable and a broken bone can often mean hospital and very often death. I very seldom do a trip into a local town without seeing at least one pavement or footpath cyclist. Its an offence that warrants a £500 fine and confiscation of the bike. There was a Sunday Times article on streamlined recumbents, This cartoon, embedded in the text says it all, its how many see us.

Al

[ukdodger]

Anyone who is tolerant of pavement cycling has no knowledge of old people who may be pedestrians. They often don't hear too well, see too well or move too well, they are often very vulnerable and a broken bone can often mean hospital and very often death. I very seldom do a trip into a local town without seeing at least one pavement or footpath cyclist. Its an offence that warrants a £500 fine and confiscation of the bike. There was a Sunday Times article on streamlined recumbents, This cartoon, embedded in the text says it all, its how many see us.

Al

You're right. They do.

Pavement cycling law is difficult to enforce though. Many cycle paths are simply painted off sections of pavement anyway. I wonder how many prosecutions there has been.

[rjb]

I have to hold my hand up and admit that i do the same. I exit my Sainsbury supermarket and cross a pavement straight onto a zebra crossing. I do stop and allways give way to ped's and road vehicles but i am surprised whenever cars stop to let me out. I do not cross over the road but use this as a means to get onto the road without lifting my loaded bike off the pavement and remounting. I suppose this is technically illegal but it makes life so much easier and doesn't seem to cause inconvenience to anyone.

[broadway]

Anyone who is tolerant of pavement cycling has no knowledge of old people who may be pedestrians. They often don't hear too well, see too well or move too well, they are often very vulnerable and a broken bone can often mean hospital and very often death. I very seldom do a trip into a local town without seeing at least one pavement or footpath cyclist. Its an offence that warrants a £500 fine and confiscation of the bike. There was a Sunday Times article on streamlined recumbents, This cartoon, embedded in the text says it all, its how many see us.

Al

I see pavement joggers as well, maybe jogging on pavements should be banned as that must be just as dangerous.

[Edwards]

pavement joggers as well, maybe jogging on pavements should be banned as that must be just as dangerous.

Only one is against the law and that involves the use of an object with metal sticky out bits and is not when in use a tripping hazard that is made even worse when it falls over.

I am probably the only person you know who has been told to use the pavement at certain times by a doctor. Yet when I do so I always dismount and walk. The roads are incredibly intimidating and riding a bike in traffic requires Cognitive Behaviour Therapy, in that the very action of cycling on the road with bigger faster things goes against out basic evolution subconscious.
This self preservation instinct is there when using the pavement thus it is more than just a minor irritant but to the pedestrian can genuinely seem as a life and death encounter.
This type of self preservation instinct becomes more prevalent when older.

So somebody going slowly not intimidating and being well dressed is to the subconscious less of a threat and are likley not to cause alarm.

[al_yrpal]

When staying in Limehouse last year the whole area is full of jogging banksters, and yes, they were quite intimidating and annoying on the crowded pavements, footpaths and narrow bridges around the Canary Wharf area. Saw several collisions which occurred because pedestrians can change direction quite abruptly without warning and don't see or hear a jogger approaching from behind. Never saw bikes but lots of banksters seemed to jog at lunchtime. In the evenings they are all spilling out of the pubs and bars onto the pavements in their shirtsleeves. A different world....

Al

[gaz]

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[PhilWhitehurst]

I unfortunately do no have any red lights to jump on my commute. I do however have a single roundabout I could go the wrong way round.

[danfoto]

I unfortunately do no have any red lights to jump on my commute. I do however have a single roundabout I could go the wrong way round.

Oh, what fun!

The very first time The Lady Wife and I went over to France was in 1984, and we were on a motorbike. No sooner had we left the hovercraft terminal at Calais than to my dismay we met our very first French-style roundabout.

I pulled in to the kerb, checked the brain, then advanced cautiously onto the roundabout. Just after we passed the first exit, I narrowly missed a cyclist coming round the wrong way.

That wasn't you, was it?

[ukdodger]

I unfortunately do no have any red lights to jump on my commute. I do however have a single roundabout I could go the wrong way round.

Oh, what fun!

The very first time The Lady Wife and I went over to France was in 1984, and we were on a motorbike. No sooner had we left the hovercraft terminal at Calais than to my dismay we met our very first French-style roundabout.

I pulled in to the kerb, checked the brain, then advanced cautiously onto the roundabout. Just after we passed the first exit, I narrowly missed a cyclist coming round the wrong way.

That wasn't you, was it?

Lol. I did exactly the same thing. Stop, get brain working another way, then proceed. Unfortunately I was driving a car at the time and later in the day, out of my head looking for our hotel with a car full of kids fed up with the journey, I pulled out of a turning and looked right. Bang, and a damaged wing. The strange thing was the driver of the car that hit mine didnt want to know. He just reversed and drove off.

[DCLXVI]

(and I bet he's an RLJer too)

A rather difficult trick for a pavement cyclist to perform, I would have thought.

It is, of course, possible for a footway user to RLJ. This happened to me recently when a load of pedestrians started crossing the road as traffic in one lane at a pelican crossing had stopped. I, on my bicycle, avoided the pedestrians (their light was red) only to receive a punch for my troubles by some annoyed fool. Also, I tend not to stop if I'm driving and see a cyclist approaching a zebra crossing whilst cycling on the footway. Unless they have a foot on the crossing they won't have a leg to stand on (legally but I hope not literally).

[horizon]

Red Light Jumper.

And there was I thinking that my nice warm red, but not heavy, cycling top was an RLJ.