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So are the Merkins* are nicking Alooominuuum now?

Credit to G Bush

thirdcrank wrote:

Vorpal wrote:The 'a' in pasta ...

Which would that be?

Heard on the radio the other day ....... "aftermath".

How was it pronounced?

ARFTAR-MARTH

Good grief!

"Pasta" or "Pastor"

Surely the pronunciation should be pasta sounding like faster as in the old wartime song "Praise the Lord and pasta ammunition" when they had run short of ammo?/

Pasta.

Not Parstar.

Both a's are short.

not long like ah.

The next person to refer to "Eye-beetha" or "Eye-beeza" is likely to cause me to wince. We're about the only language on earth that thinks a long "i" goes "eye" (it's the great vowel shift what dunnit). Everywhere else it goes "ee".

whoops wrote:"Pasta" or "Pastor"

Surely the pronunciation should be pasta sounding like faster as in the old wartime song "Praise the Lord and pasta ammunition" when they had run short of ammo?/

Depends how you pronounce "faster", doesn't it? I use a short 'a' but lots of people don't.

....... but they should.

I always get odd looks when I call a certain shop "Leedle" instead of "Lid-le".

But I have insider knowledge!

Re: Americans Huh!

Postby McVouty » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:21 pm
In both parts of Ireland the name of Primark, a company based in Dublin, is pronounced with its first syllable to rhyme with 'tree' rather than 'pie'. I suspect that the British pronunciation is partly due to the way that people educated in England, but not Scotland (I don't know about Ireland) pronounce the Latin vowel sound in e.g. 'primus', which leads to oddities (to my ears) like 'viva' (an examination in which the candidate gives spoken answers, a contraction of 'viva voce') rhyming with 'fiver' (if you have an English accent only, but it's the first syllable that I'm talking about here).
It is true that we can't know how the ancient Romans pronounced Latin, but I would bet that they sounded more like modern Romans than speakers of Recieved Pronunciation ('Oxford') English. FWIW I have been told in both Italy and Poland that Scots tend to pronounce the local languages more accurately than people with either English or American accents, though I suspect that I may have been told what the tellers thought I wanted to hear.

meic wrote:I always get odd looks when I call a certain shop "Leedle" instead of "Lid-le".

But I have insider knowledge!

What's that? You've seen the advert

No, I havent. I dont have a TV. If I had I wouldnt have thought I had insider knowledge.

Does this mean people will start saying it properly now?

English and (and American) pronunciation of Italian is generally bad anyway. How do you say Lancia? If you say it like lan-cier your saying it wrong.

McVouty wrote:Re: Americans Huh!

Postby McVouty » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:21 pm
In both parts of Ireland the name of Primark, a company based in Dublin, is pronounced with its first syllable to rhyme with 'tree' rather than 'pie'. I suspect that the British pronunciation is partly due to the way that people educated in England, but not Scotland (I don't know about Ireland) pronounce the Latin vowel sound in e.g. 'primus', which leads to oddities (to my ears) like 'viva' (an examination in which the candidate gives spoken answers, a contraction of 'viva voce') rhyming with 'fiver' (if you have an English accent only, but it's the first syllable that I'm talking about here).
It is true that we can't know how the ancient Romans pronounced Latin, but I would bet that they sounded more like modern Romans than speakers of Recieved Pronunciation ('Oxford') English. FWIW I have been told in both Italy and Poland that Scots tend to pronounce the local languages more accurately than people with either English or American accents, though I suspect that I may have been told what the tellers thought I wanted to hear.

And there was I, thinking that Primark was a mangling of "prime" and who knows what else. But then, perhaps Prime should be said Preem. Hmmm.

I always feel smugly amused on the Glasgow train, when the (pre-recorded) announcer says "Glarsgoe". But then I am a southerner living in the north with one of the local monkeys.

And now find myself thinking about semiotics, and the origins of the word bath. Does it come from the so named place, in which case surely, these uncouth northern types should be forced to say it how the locals of that southern community say it.

And now find myself thinking about semiotics, and the origins of the word bath. Does it come from the so named place, in which case surely, these uncouth northern types should be forced to say it how the locals of that southern community say it.

I assume you mean "South Eastern community" please don't accuse natives west of Hampshire speaking with the horribly distorted vowels of Londoners. Somerset folk call the city Baaath not Barf like you lot