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What this stuff is

Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 3:24pm
by ukdodger
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I bought this Garmin GPSMap60csx off eBay. The seller said all he'd ever done was plug the batteries in and it was brand new (as they do). But around the battery terminals is this odd stuff that looks like sand but isnt. It's not gritty and I dont recognise it as leakage from a battery. Before I start shouting at the seller can anyone throw any light on what it might be. The 'stuff' is only at one end.

Re: What this stuff is

Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 4:59pm
by Brian R Pateman
It looks like the "aftermath" of battery leakage.

It's very familiar to those who fix vintage radio sets and often indicates that the batteries were left in for some time after they died.

It needs to be cleaned off (I use Isopropyl Alcohol and a short bristled brush).

The problems occur if it has spread into the electronics. Small electronic devices are unlikely to react well to this sort of contamination which is likely to cause damage if it's left.

Re: What this stuff is

Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 5:06pm
by ukdodger
Brian R Pateman wrote:It looks like the "aftermath" of battery leakage.

It's very familiar to those who fix vintage radio sets and often indicates that the batteries were left in for some time after they died.

It needs to be cleaned off (I use Isopropyl Alcohol and a short bristled brush).

The problems occur if it has spread into the electronics. Small electronic devices are unlikely to react well to this sort of contamination which is likely to cause damage if it's left.


Strange then that it should be in an unused 'brand new' unit. It functions Ok so far as I can tell except that you have to press the on/off button quite hard and sometimes more than once. I didnt think batteries leaked these days ! Thanks

Now should I return it or not :?

Re: What this stuff is

Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 5:12pm
by Brian R Pateman
It often happens on "new" stuff. I bought a very expensive Sony radio at a knock down price which suffered from the same problem. When enquired it turned out that the radio had been a shop demonstration item and had been on a shelf for a couple of years unsold but with the batteries left in.

You have a PM by the way.

Re: What this stuff is

Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 7:46pm
by Gearoidmuar
Old battery leakage I think too. I've often seen it. I would send it back..

Re: What this stuff is

Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 10:00pm
by ukdodger
Gearoidmuar wrote:Old battery leakage I think too. I've often seen it. I would send it back..


It's funny but I havent seen battery leakage since I was a mere lad when EverReady batteries regularly popped open in torches. But then it was green gunge. The seller advertised 'no returns' but I've sent a message saying what I think and his feedback will suffer. I'll chance keeping though it as it works identically to the one I already have (except you have to press the on/off button quite hard and sometimes more than once). Havent tried it on road yet though.

Re: What this stuff is

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 8:37am
by Gearoidmuar
I have more remote controls than you've had hot dinners! I've seen that at least 20 times in the last 20 years. Always white and usually unfixable, but I'd say yours is okay.

Re: What this stuff is

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 2:04pm
by axel_knutt
ukdodger wrote:It's funny but I havent seen battery leakage since I was a mere lad


I had some Duracells leak in my front lamp just recently, and they weren't even getting flat. I find this is usually the beginning of the end, once it gets hold you can't get rid of it. I chucked my old mobile phone out after the battery started leaking.

Re: What this stuff is

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 2:20pm
by Alex L
Being a young'un, I've only seen this once. It was from my first mobile phone after I found it 5 years after no use. :roll:

Re: What this stuff is

Posted: 28 Oct 2012, 3:27pm
by ukdodger
axel_knutt wrote:
ukdodger wrote:It's funny but I havent seen battery leakage since I was a mere lad


I had some Duracells leak in my front lamp just recently, and they weren't even getting flat. I find this is usually the beginning of the end, once it gets hold you can't get rid of it. I chucked my old mobile phone out after the battery started leaking.


Yes the acid corrodes the metal but it doesnt appear to have affected the metal contacts in this unit. Maybe they use different acid now.

Re: What this stuff is

Posted: 29 Oct 2012, 2:04pm
by pyruse
It's not acid - there's a reason they are called Alakaline batteries :-)