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Re: RIP school kids in Connecticut

Posted: 22 Dec 2012, 4:56pm
by Trigger
Vorpal wrote:
thirdcrank wrote:Vorpal,

I'd not want you to think people are having a go at you, least of all me, but that sounds like an ..." I didn't inhale" ... sort of an explanation.


:D You can have a go at me, TC.

People keep posting links to Walmart's site. Just because they have something on their webpage, doesn't mean anyone can actually buy it. Really. Even if it shows as in stock. Walmart does stuff like that. From nappies to cups to weaponry.

Nothing that I have ever tried to buy at Walmart because I found it on their website, has actually been available from Walmart. It is one of several reasons that I will never, ever give them any of my money again. I won't derail this thread by going into details, but I challenge someone to find a Walmart store that actually has that ammunition in stock.

I'm not saying the people can't buy it. I expect that they can in at least a few states. But a link to it on Walmart's site is all but meaningless.


FWIW I was just using Walmart as an example, the point isn't whichever store stocks this stuff it's that it's available in a standard supermarket style environment. As for "that's not legal in most states" on the contrary, as I mentioned in my last post there are only four states with assault rifle restrictions and ironically Connecticut is one of them, didn't seem to make much difference in this case.

I don't think it's much of a challenge finding ammo in stock in most Walmart...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNKkPeLl9Mo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w8vcp5Yw3M

Unless of course they've sold out...

Walmart out of stock

Walmart out of AR stock in five states

etc etc...

Re: RIP school kids in Connecticut

Posted: 23 Dec 2012, 9:58am
by Vorpal
I watched the whole of press conference by the National Rifle Association (NRA) the other day. I can't seem to find it now. Maybe they've taken down. I watched because my friends were posting to articles that summarised, and I wanted to know what they really said rather than what the media said they said.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/12/2 ... onference/ has a link to the text of the speech and a poll about whether schools should have armed guards.

It saddens me. The CEO of the NRA blamed video games and mentally ill people and proposed putting armed guards in schools.

Columbine school in Colorado *had* armed guards, including a sherrif. The killers simply took enough firepower to overwhelm the armed guards.

A little back-of-envelope maths says that 140,000 schools with an average of 1.3 guards per school (probably not enough) and $100000 for salary and benefits comes out to just over $18 billion.

The worst is that the poll results showed that 40% of people voting in the poll agreed that schools should have armed guards. :cry:

Re: RIP school kids in Connecticut

Posted: 23 Dec 2012, 10:12am
by reohn2
Vorpal wrote:It saddens me. The CEO of the NRA blamed video games and mentally ill people and proposed putting armed guards in schools.

They never see what they don't want to.
It's the same with cars,traffic,pollution,etc.Not to mention the tobacco companies.

Columbine school in Colorado *had* armed guards, including a sherrif. The killers simply took enough firepower to overwhelm the armed guards.

A little back-of-envelope maths says that 140,000 schools with an average of 1.3 guards per school (probably not enough) and $100000 for salary and benefits comes out to just over $18 billion.

The worst is that the poll results showed that 40% of people voting int he poll agreed that schools should have armed guards. :cry:

Civilisation(?) is in a very bad way if this is what it's come to :? .