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Chain wear - how much is too much?
Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 11:23am
by ed_b
Ok, mindful that Sheldon Brown calls chain maintenance
a religious question, is there even
some consensus about when to replace a chain?
I have Park Tool's
chain wear measurer, which indicates .5% and .75% "stretch". My current chain is a tad past the .75% mark: with the tool in place, there's about .5mm clearance between the furthest edge of the tool and the roller of the next link.
Is it enough now just to replace the chain, or am I going to have to replace the sprockets too? Clearly I'd much rather just do the chain - but if the sprockets are going to be so worn that I'll get through chains like water that might be false economy.

Any ideas, good people?
Re: Chain wear - how much is too much?
Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 11:33am
by meic
If you are doing the work yourself, then try replacing the chain, now, by itself. If the cassette is too worn, it will let you know as the chain will just keep jumping, then you put the old chain back on until you replace chain and cassette together.
If the chainrings look good, then replace cassette and chain as soon as possible. If you think the chainrings all need replacing too then extract as much use out of the system as you can before replacing the lot.
Re: Chain wear - how much is too much?
Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 4:35pm
by Gearoidmuar
If you try to get the absolute max out of the system, you may get a chain break. Not a link cracking but coming loose at the pin. It's happened to me a number of times. Therefore, carry a couple of spare links and a chaintool. Usually there's a bit of a warning, like a notchiness...
Re: Chain wear - how much is too much?
Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 4:36pm
by Brucey
^ what meic said.
methodical folk use several chains to 0.5% wear, then use them again from 0.5% to 0.75%, and so forth.
I am not so methodical as that....
cheers
Re: Chain wear - how much is too much?
Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 4:53pm
by Ayesha
When 10" becomes 10 1/8", I scrap off that chain and fit a new one.
Re: Chain wear - how much is too much?
Posted: 5 Apr 2013, 5:52pm
by ed_b
Thanks, guys. Very helpful!
Re: Chain wear - how much is too much?
Posted: 6 Apr 2013, 7:39am
by 531colin
I have been using a Rohloff chain wear gauge for 15 years or so.
http://www.rohloff.de/en/products/caliber_2/Its labelled 0.075 and 0.1mm, but I can't remember what that's supposed to mean.
I do know that if I let the chain wear past "0.1mm" then my cassette is toast, but if I catch the chain before that, I can run a new chain on the old cassette. I don't know how many chains I could actually run, because I never got to the end yet.........I tend to replace the cassette when the rim wears through.
Re: Chain wear - how much is too much?
Posted: 6 Apr 2013, 8:47am
by Gearoidmuar
Ayesha wrote:When 10" becomes 10 1/8", I scrap off that chain and fit a new one.
If you let it go that far, you often need new sprockets. If you change at 1/16 increase you won't
Re: Chain wear - how much is too much?
Posted: 6 Apr 2013, 9:01am
by reohn2
Gearoidmuar wrote:Ayesha wrote:When 10" becomes 10 1/8", I scrap off that chain and fit a new one.
If you let it go that far, you often need new sprockets. If you change at 1/16 increase you won't
+1 but for me it's 12 1/16th"
Re: Chain wear - how much is too much?
Posted: 6 Apr 2013, 10:46am
by Edwards
Brucey wrote:^ what meic said.
methodical folk use several chains to 0.5% wear, then use them again from 0.5% to 0.75%, and so forth.
I am not so methodical as that....
cheers
Not as organised as you think, cheapskate and lazy.
Edit to add this is the system I use.
Re: Chain wear - how much is too much?
Posted: 6 Apr 2013, 10:52am
by Brucey
reohn2 wrote: Gearoidmuar wrote:Ayesha wrote:When 10" becomes 10 1/8", I scrap off that chain and fit a new one.
If you let it go that far, you often need new sprockets. If you change at 1/16 increase you won't
+1 but for me it's 12 1/16th"
I agree; 1/16" is the way; skipping is inevitable in the most favoured sprockets if you let it go to 1/8" .
cheers
Re: Chain wear - how much is too much?
Posted: 6 Apr 2013, 12:13pm
by 531colin
Next time my gauge tells me a chain is worn out, I'm going to measure it.
Re: Chain wear - how much is too much?
Posted: 6 Apr 2013, 6:09pm
by Sweep
Very impressed by Colin's system which means that one wheel/rim only ever has one cassette.
I realise that this must have been asked a lot on other threads, but how many miles do you tend to get out of a chain?
I must admit I often get lazy, realise that the chain has gone too far, let it go on and wear both the chain and casette into the ground and then change both at the same time.