Paths or roads?

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Post by Crazydave »

Personally, I would try both routes out a few times, then you will gradually get a feel for which one you like best. Some cycle paths are very good such as the Bristol and Bath Railway Path, where you can do the length (14 miles) inside an hour. Others are hopeless such as the pavement on the main road into Southampton from the normal, which gives way to side turnings with zero visibility.
At the moment, I commute on a mix of roads and an offroad shortcut through the country park (which I take at the beginning of my Friday shift, which stops me getting stuck behind the queue on the narrow downhill road which normally takes 10 minutes to clear).
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HAZBOY wrote:I do have another question, if someone could answer. On some of the roads there will be speed bumps. If i'm riding a road /touring bike how do I traverse these?

Do I try and avoid ie get closer to gutter or just drive over slowly?


Drive over fast :twisted:

But seriously, take them slowly at first and then find a speed that you're happy going over them at. You'll find it helps to transfer a bit more weight than usual to your pedals as you go over, as it's a bit easier on your bum.

Nowadays I tend to find that I actually go over bumps faster than most cars, which can be a bit irritating when they charge past me in a hurry, only to hold me up for the next 300 yards as they slow right down for each one. Does make my panniers rattle a bit though!
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I don't go over speed bumps unless I have to, I go between them, whether this involves riding near the kerb or further out into the carraigeway. Also depends on the speed bump. The ones with a rounded profile are OK, but the ones with a square or trapezium profile can give you a bit of a jolt. You can also bunny hop over them.
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Post by horizon »

Just raise you bum about an inch or two from the saddle as you go over - this will soon become second nature. The bike pivots around the pedals.
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horizon wrote:Just raise you bum about an inch or two from the saddle as you go over - this will soon become second nature.


That's what I do. Forgot one day (on my old bike) and Ooyah :oops:
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Post by drossall »

Mick F's advice is good, and HAZBOY himself is correct to identify cycle path/road intersections as hazardous; largely for this reason, cycle paths are, overall, more dangerous than roads.

That doesn't mean that every path is dangerous, and it does not stop me using the Stevenage paths daily when commuting. However, it does mean that you should trust your instincts as to the safest route, given that you have shown that you are aware of the issues.
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Post by archy sturmer »

One of the dangers on paths is oncoming Cyclists - many of them seem intent determined and hell bent on passing on the wrong side (ie, to their right).
I can't figure out why they do this - maybe someone can explain to me why it's the right and proper and natural thing to do?
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Post by Si »

I can't figure out why they do this


probably because they've never ridden on the road!
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Post by towedhaul »

Hazboy, I agree with the others saying you should get some training.
Who knows? You might be doing everything really well but proper training from a qualified instructor would confirm that & build your confidence.
Congratulations on deciding to ride.
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Post by nobby »

2Tubs wrote:In the meantime buy or borrow a copy of John Franklin's book, Cyclecraft published by The Stationary Office. It will detail the best way to approach and execute most junctions and traffic islands.

Gazza


If you read this you won't need training as well. It is written in the same way as the old police manuals on driving and motorcycling; very clear.
Excellent book; I borrowed it from the library.
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nobby wrote:
2Tubs wrote:In the meantime buy or borrow a copy of John Franklin's book, Cyclecraft published by The Stationary Office. It will detail the best way to approach and execute most junctions and traffic islands.

Gazza


If you read this you won't need training as well. It is written in the same way as the old police manuals on driving and motorcycling; very clear.
Excellent book; I borrowed it from the library.

Nothing compares to actually getting the training.

If you feel confident after reading the book that you have all the skills necessary to ride with confidence, then knock yourself out! Go ride!

But for most, confidence increases no end with training and can help them be assertive rather than timid on the roads. And that's the key to staying safe.

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2Tubs wrote:
nobby wrote:
2Tubs wrote:In the meantime buy or borrow a copy of John Franklin's book, Cyclecraft published by The Stationary Office. It will detail the best way to approach and execute most junctions and traffic islands.

Gazza


If you read this you won't need training as well. It is written in the same way as the old police manuals on driving and motorcycling; very clear.
Excellent book; I borrowed it from the library.

Nothing compares to actually getting the training.

If you feel confident after reading the book that you have all the skills necessary to ride with confidence, then knock yourself out! Go ride!

But for most, confidence increases no end with training and can help them be assertive rather than timid on the roads. And that's the key to staying safe.

Gazza

Gazza


On reflection, Gazza is right.

I came back to cycling after a twenty year gap and found the book enough because it was so clearly written, but I have 43 years of experience on the roads with motorcycles and cars.

I am finding that drivers are generally more considerate than 20 years ago, but I don't know if that would be the same in large cities. In my small city I feel very happy with the way that people are giving me space when overtaking and it is the same in the countryside. I'd be very wary on trunk roads though, and I try to avoid them.
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nobby wrote:
On reflection, Gazza is right.


Being a married man, it's been a long long time since I've heard those words.

>;o)

It's a question of confidence. If you feel you can understand Cyclecraft and apply it in practice then go ride, it's what bikes and roads are for.

I think most would want some mentoring before applying the tricks of cyclecraft.

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