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Tent to stand up in

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:?: Does anyone know of a lightweight 2 person tent that you can stand up in. My partner and I are touring France and Corsica starting at the beginning of June for 6 weeks. We have a decathlon ultralight 3 at present which only weights 3 kilos buts we are fed up of the cramped space and having to crawl into it. We are thinking a stand up tent will be heavier and so we could split the package into 2 to share the weight but we still need something not much more than 6 kilos with a porch area for storage/cooking.
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biciclista1 wrote:Does anyone know of a lightweight 2 person tent that you can stand up in..

Yes - just bought one - first impressions are favourable. :-) Eureka Wickiup SUL 3 - or 4, if you want even more space...
http://www.4horses.me.uk/T/Blog/Archive.html
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General comment on US-style pyramid tents:

a) The inner tent (the "nest") is often listed separately from the main tent, and poles occasionally are. Make sure you add up everything you are going to use when comparing weight and cost. Midges will generally mean that you do want a nest.
b) You will sometimes get a fairly generous amount of condensation on the inside of the outer (most notably, any time there is dew on the grass). If you knock the tent, any condensation that drips off will go through a mesh nest and get your sleeping bag etc damp. If you take care not to knock the tent, it will generally run down to the bottom and drip off harmlessly. A solid UK/European style inner will keep off all drips.
c) When looking at height, remember that the very top of a pyramid is occupied by the pole, and there won't be room for your head as well. You may want to knock 15-20cm off the quoted height when considering how straight you can stand.
d) With good pegging, pyramids are quite good in the wind, probably better than the Laser Space.
e) A guyline is quite flexible about where the peg goes, but for pegging points round the edge of the outer there's much less choice. A pyramid relies quite a lot on having solidly set edge-of-outer pegs. This may not be easy on stony campsites such as are common in alpine areas.
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Andrew s has it about right there, I'd say, for the pyramids. I have a Shangri La 3 / oook half inner. I do find the condensation less of an issue than with smaller tents.

If you are happy with 2.8kg, the Eureka 4 is a lot of space (you'll not have to sleep either side of the pole!) and I see it has a square floorplan outline - easier to pitch than my hex, no doubt.
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The Terra Nova Laser space 2 is huge for around 3Kg. At 5' 2" my wife stands in it and at just over 6 foot it is easy for me to get dressed it, a problem with small tents. 2 bikes fit in the forch with front wheels removed. Sometimes bargains to be had on Ebay. The biggest advantage is putting up the fly in the rain, getting sheltered then hanging inner tent up. Hope this helps.
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andrew_s wrote:General comment on US-style pyramid tents:
a) The inner tent (the "nest") is often listed separately from the main tent, and poles occasionally are. Make sure you add up everything you are going to use when comparing weight and cost.
c) When looking at height, remember that the very top of a pyramid is occupied by the pole, and there won't be room for your head as well. You may want to knock 15-20cm off the quoted height when considering how straight you can stand.

I'll add some comments that refer specifically to my new Wickiup SUL3, to balance Andrew's helpful general comments:
I bought the tent from Eureka! directly - their site listed the package contents which includes the outer, the fabric inner (its apex is made from mesh), the single pole, 8 aluminium pegs and 2 bags. The weight of all these items is 2.1 kg. I'm 5' 10" and have found it easy (as well as a refreshing change) to walk in and out of the tent, although there isn't enough height for me to stand up straight in it.
The pole is adjustable in length by about 8" - there are 7 click-stop steps - and it is tempting to think this might be useful if you are tall, however its real value comes in raising or lowering the height of the fly hem according to the weather/temperature.
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If you're not in a hurry, bikepacker'll be back mid-June...
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=75748&p=663772#p663772
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Like yourselves we were tired of crawling into our tent so splashed out on Vango Omega 600xl at £200. Sleeps 6 in a four and a two person pod. weighs in at 8.5kg but we do not take the two man pod nor the main groundsheet. Luxury when erected, especially when it is raining as everything can fit in. Stood up well to very high winds on Islay recently with the tension bands helping. Might be too big for your needs but well worth a look at the price.
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Thanks for your reply. I had already ordered a Robens twilight dreamer weighing 7.6 kilos before I saw your post otherwise I think I would have gone for the Vango Omega 600 as without the small pod I imagine the weight is less than the Robens tent. The store I ordered it from couldn't tell me the length of the poles so I am just hoping when we split up the tent into 2 parcels for carriage they will fit across the top of our panniers. I noticed that the pack size of the Omega 600 is smaller than the Robens twilight dreamer. We are trying to travel as light as possible but want a few comforts at our advanced ages and would prefer to take an alternative to sleeping bags which neither of us like. ? I cut a douvet down in size but its still too bulky. Have you any suggestions? The problem is that the weather is likely to be cooler when we set off from St Malo and gradually getting getting warmer.
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biciclista1 wrote:prefer to take an alternative to sleeping bags which neither of us like. ? I cut a douvet down in size but its still too bulky.

http://www.facewest.co.uk/Thermarest-Al ... tAodqiEA4Q Just like a duvet, big enough to curl up underneath. I used mine last weekend when it was just fine. Having no zips, hoods or toggles it is lighter and less bulky than an equivalent sleeping bag. I tend to use sleeping bags open like a duvet, so tried this as an experiment that seems to be successful.
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Another alternative for a sleeping quilt;
http://www.jacksrbetter.com/quilts/

I've had one for five years and wouldn't go back to a sleeping bag for anything.
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