Funny story

[NUKe]

"Chav" when used to describe anyone from a certain location, in a certain income bracket, who wears a certain style of clothing, then I'd say it says more about the bigoted views of the person calling them that.

On the other hand, when used to describe someone who routinely indulges in anti-social behaviour and cares not a jot what harm they do to others, then I'm more inclined to let it ride.

Question is: did the term "chav" jumps into your head on first seeing said individual or after seeing their behaviour?

from the vey first post

Today I was cycling to work and as it is a beautiful day I was just taking it casual at 10mph and then along side me appeared a chav dressed in jeans and a baseball cap riding a halfords own Appollo switchback,

I rest my case my lud

[Vantage]

Plenty of dole scum as well.

So when you get made redundant or have to leave work due to injury or ill health, we can label you as scum?
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[kwackers]

"Chav" when used to describe anyone from a certain location, in a certain income bracket, who wears a certain style of clothing, then I'd say it says more about the bigoted views of the person calling them that.

Location and income bracket - probably. But clothing - perhaps it's different where you are but around here it's practically a uniform.

[661-Pete]

Re: Funny story

Not very.

[Vorpal]

...he will learn to not run a red light again, if he would of stopped like I did, then his bike wouldn't of got disabled. So really the morale of the story is, good things come to those who wait

Probably all you did was irritate him. If you hadn't have given him a focus for his anger, maybe he would have thought about what he did, instead.

Maybe if you hadn't taken him up on the racing, he would have stopped for the red.

[kwackers]

Maybe if you hadn't taken him up on the racing, he would have stopped for the red.

Which reminds me of a incident about 18 months ago.
I was on my way home from work and the last leg is a slight downhill stretch where a single carriageway turns into a dual at a set of lights.
Down that section with the moderate sort of effort I put in and the fact it's the last mile of my 14 mile run I hit around 25mph or so.
As I came down the hill I was suddenly aware of a teen racing me on his bmx, his legs must've been going at 300rpm and he tootled past with a couple of mph in hand, I ignored him, the lights changed and I rolled up and braked - however as is the fashion his bike had no brakes and he was fair shifting...

Watching him pile through the lights feet on the floor desperately trying to stop had a horrid fascination to it, fortunately the actual junction is quite far from the lights, traffic was light and he managed to veer left around the left turn and avoid hitting anything.

[karlt]

Chav is actually the official name and is recognised

recognised by whom?
it is a term used by the conservative press and the sneering classes to marginalise and demonise working class kids and young adults. It has no place on public forums.
And I did mean conservative and not Conservative.

Ironic that a term implying lack of education amongst other things is used by someone in a derogatory manner who consistently uses "could of" in place of "could have". Very chavvy language, IMO.

[Vantage]

Bit like typing "IMO" in place of "in my opinion"?

[kwackers]

Bit like typing "IMO" in place of "in my opinion"?

IYO...

[karlt]

Bit like typing "IMO" in place of "in my opinion"?

No, not really.

[southamptonadi]

it is a term used by the conservative press and the sneering classes to marginalise and demonise working class kids and young adults. It has no place on public forums.
And I did mean conservative and not Conservative.

I think you will find the term CHAV was started around the late 90s and not used in a newspaper till 2002. The stereotype of a chav includes wearing branded designer sportswear, which may be accompanied by some form of gold jewellery otherwise termed as "bling".

When we were young for example the kids that hanged around the shops were labeled as "townies" and they had their own style of clothing aswell.

You will find that the term CHAV is used about most people who are typical Jereymy Kyle guests or as said earlier end up getting ASBO's for their unaceptable behaviour.

"Chav" when used to describe anyone from a certain location, in a certain income bracket, who wears a certain style of clothing, then I'd say it says more about the bigoted views of the person calling them that.

On the other hand, when used to describe someone who routinely indulges in anti-social behaviour and cares not a jot what harm they do to others, then I'm more inclined to let it ride.

Question is: did the term "chav" jumps into your head on first seeing said individual or after seeing their behaviour?

from the vey first post

Today I was cycling to work and as it is a beautiful day I was just taking it casual at 10mph and then along side me appeared a Today I was cycling to work and as it is a beautiful day I was just taking it casual at 10mph and then along side me appeared chav dressed in jeans and a baseball cap riding a halfords own Appollo switchback,

I rest my case my lud

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Dont forget when the OP wrote this it was after it happened he is hardle going to write

"Today I was cycling to work and as it is a beautiful day I was just taking it casual at 10mph and then along side me appeared a cylist I later realised he was a chav"

Its not meant to be a police statement.

I thought the story was funny i'm sure the cyclist deserved what he got, Karma allways wins.

[661-Pete]

Strange, isn't it, how the more snobbish amongst us are also the ones who can't spell or punctuate, or write good grammatical English...

[kwackers]

Strange, isn't it, how the more snobbish amongst us are also the ones who can't spell or punctuate, or write good grammatical English...

I try my best but I spent most of my formative years with an alcoholic father, lived on a council estate that made Shameless look 'up-market' and had less than 15% attendance in the last few years of secondary.

I consider myself a 'chav made good(ish)'

[Si]

This thread really seems to be getting beyond redemption. If it isn't people labelling, or being accused of labelling, those of a different social background with derogatory terms that run the risk of actually causing the behaviour that they are trying to criticise, it's people making judgements on others' lives based solely on their use of typed English on an informal forum. Is it worth persevering with this thread or should it be consigned to the scrapheap of "could have been interesting if only people had been a bit more thoughtful in their phrasing and a little more tolerant"?

[meic]

a little more tolerant"?

No, bin it.

Or just move it to the tea shop.

Possibly you could have a sub-forum where all conversations that mention class in any way shape or form are sent to, rather like with h*lm*ts.