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ferrit worrier
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workshop hints and tips

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Over the last few days I've been doing a bit of serious tinkering in the workshop, it occurred to me that between us all on the forum we have an abundance of knowledge about cycling and bicycles.
Many of us will have a shed or workshop to "Tinker" in but what about those little things we set up to make life easier for ourselves. just simple ideas.

Here's a couple that I use.
chuck key on chain
chuck key on chain


I was forever losing the chuck key till I attached it to the drill with a key ring and a length of chain.

removable work top
removable work top


this is a small piece of plywood screwed to a length of 2X2 that is held in the vice great for fiddling with small things and I don't have to bend over to far. The ideal height for a vice is Elbow height so this puts everything in the right place.

Some might say that's the only clear bit of bench I've got :lol: not wrong :oops:
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I got a rule that may be helpful. Everything has a place. Clean workshop clean mind. :D
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I'm with Fossala - everything has its own place. I got paranoid last week when the wife used my 'no nails' glue to fix her broken hairbrush. She didn't put it back in the right place and the first thing I did was to check the main garage door to make sure it had not been breached. We only ever use the smaller rear entrance.
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I've just managed to get myself a workshop and have been clearing and repainting.

When its finished most of the tools will be on the wall and I intend to draw round them. My wife thinks its silly. She won't be getting a key ...Image
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fossala wrote:I got a rule that may be helpful. Everything has a place. Clean workshop clean mind. :D


I've been collecting tools and other bits and bobs since before I left school :D most of the equipment I've got is away in drawers etc but the stuff I use most is nearly always out on the bench. although it looks chaotic I know where tools are even if it's a couple of weeks before I have a mad couple of days in there. Like the last weekend, Repaired a Whacker plate, I had to insert a new piece of 6mm thick steel into the sole plate. then repair a second hand cement mixer for the caving club. and fit a new BB cartridge into the bike, remove and clean up the back brake calliper. Then this afternoon I had a nice 30 mile ride :D I'll finish the mixer tomorrow :D

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I've seen people do really good work in tidy conditions or in something that looks like (to some other folk) a mess. Different strokes suit different folks....

On top of my drill stand I have a few magnets which I have salvaged from old loudspeakers. I use these to keep the most used drill bits, chuck key,centre punch, etc on. If I've been drilling steel, I can clean up the worst of the swarf in a few seconds using a spare magnet.

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:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: I want a workshop but the 3 room flat I live in isn't quite suitable and I can't see the Landlady being too happy if I turn the bedroom into a workshop.
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I had my nipples pierced and run a length of chain between the two for a handy place to keep my spoke key.
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Any photos? :lol:
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it's the 2013 'man-cave' look.... :wink:

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Im in a place for every thing club, in addition I colour code allen keys and spanners etc.

For example red is for 5 mm also for 10 mm this way its easy see which is which when they are being used ,I may have 4,5,6,8 mm keys in use picking out the red one is easy.

Also if Im not in my shed I can ask my wife/grandson to get me red allen key.

All very anal I know but having order does save time.
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I've colour coded my allen keys in the toolbox, a few turns of insulating tape on the shaft held in place with heat shrink tubing to seal the ends but only do 4 & 5mm.
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anniesboy wrote: ....All very anal I know but having order does save time....


some people remember where they put a given tool down when they are working and others don't; fundamentally I think this makes the difference between those who can work well in 'untidy' conditions and those who cannot. If more than one person uses a workshop/set of tools they must be stored in an orderly fashion, else one or more of the users will lose their sanity in short order.

Tool boards are all very well but unless you have a big shop and/or few tools you quickly run out of space for them. I have made more space on tool boards by fitting longer pegs so that (say) several spanners go on one peg. Trouble with this is that you do end up moving the front tools around to get at the back ones. I plan to make 'door' panels that are mounted on hinges onto battens on the wall; these will have tools on both sides (on hooks so that they won't fall off). This can double the amount of space for tools on the wall, and may (if the panels are 'closed' when not in use) help to prevent rusting (through condensation) in unheated workshops.

You can buy colour-coded wrench sets BTW.

I have multiple socket sets; between full hex, bi-hex, 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", 3/4" drives, shallow, medium, deep, impact, metric, AF, whit, BA sizes, it is a lot to keep track of, probably upwards of 500 sockets in total, plus inevitable duplicates. ( I still find I don't have the right ones for some jobs, too...). The smaller sockets are stored on rails, and the rails are hung up on a board. Sockets are small and easily mislaid; I can see immediately if there is one missing from a rail.

Dirty tools are a problem; use the same (rusty) socket on (say) an engine part that you last used on a chassis part and you have just introduced a load of dirt/rust inside a delicate assembly; good job... :roll: ! To help with identification and cleanliness, I have (taking my cue from my old 'Williams Superslim' sets) gone through many of my sockets, cleaned and lightly painted the inside of each one. Red for Whit/BSF, Blue for AF, and White (or just unpainted chrome) for metric. That way there is much less chance of using a rusty or dirty socket on a delicate part, and the worst that will happen is that a little paint will come off (which is usually obvious, and anyway not as harmful as dirt or rust). Surprisingly much of the paint survives in use, so they don't need redoing that often; besides this the sets always have little-used ones in them, so the type of set is readily identified even when the paint is worn in the most-used sockets.

It is worth being careful about what you do and where you do it, too; some processes are incredibly dirty or messy. Obvious ones are (in metals) sand blasting, grinding, polishing, welding, spraying and (in wood) planing, sawing, sanding, turning. Any of these processes can make a workshop a complete mess in just a few minutes, and cover everything in a layer of crud.

My advice is (if occasional) to do these jobs in a separate area, even outdoors (e.g. under an awning) if you don't have the shop space, else you will be cleaning the mess up (or living with the consequences) for months. The better ventilation outdoors can only be a good thing, too, in many cases.

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A good point about the dust that is generated in a workshop, on the opposite side to my vice is a lathe so if I'm grinding a chunk of metal I put covers over the lathe and the bikes go outside. Also I'm not over keen on doing woodwork in the workshop as it leaves shavings and sawdust about, not an ideal situation when you want to weld something, hence it's always a good clean up afterwards, and the bin lives outside the workshop.
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I've just been sorting out the "mechanical sheep" ........... the lawnmower.

It's a mulching rotary 4stroke, and it's been chewing the grass instead of cutting/chopping it. I took the shaped steel blade off and sharpened it with my angle grinder. Blunt as a blunt thing! Hitting too many stones. :oops:

That is one job you need to do outside! Grindings are awful and coat everything in a workshop with a grey gritty iron fillingly dust. The very idea of doing it in my workshop fills me with horror.
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