Lightweight Cutlery

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foxyrider
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Lightweight Cutlery

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When you are camping I personally think its essential to have some self reliance for food preparation, not every site has a restaurant and those that do can swiftly make a dent in your monetary resources. That said I don’t want to finish a days ride and cook dinner so my culinary delights on these trips are generally restricted to cold or dehydrated food, very occasionally a tin of something. As a result a kettle and crockery make up most of the kit, however whatever you eat will require some eating irons.

Of course the obvious thing to do is just grab a set out of the cutlery draw – no additional cost, space isn’t really an issue for me and I’ve used that scenario as the control. I reckon the stuff I use at home, full stainless steel implements will be pretty typical of the stuff in most homes. When they hit the scales they don’t appear too weighty, mine come in at 143 grams.

A true camper will inevitably prefer some dedicated utensils to keep with the rest of the gear, I’m no different so for my first trip I acquired a set of Gelert lexan cutlery. More substantial than disposable stuff and pretty much full size they work okay and at 30 grams the set are substantially lighter than the domestic steel stuff. I didn’t really find them comfortable to use and the big spoon ended up being supplemented by a stainless teaspoon for tea making and yoghurt eating adding a further 20 grams to the package.

Time for a rethink so in 2006 I located some replacement kit from Life Venture in titanium. Compared to the plastic they cost megabucks, around £8 each but the nicer feel and ‘performance’ really was enough to counter the extra few grams. Apart from leaving the teaspoon at home after the 2010 trip they’ve given sterling service – at 44 grams they are hardly heavy so its not like there’ll be a lighter alternative.

Wrong! Those clever guys who supplied my new kettle for the 2013 trip, Esbit decided to have a go and for the princely sum of £16.53 I took delivery of their TC3-Ti cutlery set. My first impression was that they are very small, almost like childrens cutlery, the knife in particular feels tiny. A quick weigh puts the trio at 33 grams – 25% lighter than the old Ti set but only at the cost of close to that in reduced size, I’m not entirely convinced.

Another option hit my radar whilst I was in Switzerland in the summer, an aircraft grade aluminium set claiming a mere 22 grams! So I parted with another £15.49 to acquire a set from those Amazon people, half the Swiss price. They are certainly not pretty, the broad handles are stamped out with a lateral ridge, the grey anodized finish adding to a very non food kit appearance. The feel is certainly more business like than the Esbits, and a better fit in my smallish hands so these look favourite. In fact size wise they are almost the same as the LV Ti set, the knife being just a little shorter in handle length. of course a 50% weight saving over the previously used Life Venture stuff won’t go amiss even if that is only 22 grams.


    ................................................. Knife... Fork... Spoon... Total
    Domestic Stainless Steel.................... 64........ 37........ 42..... 143
    Gelert Camping Lexan....................... 13........ 10........ 7..... 30
    Life Venture Titanium....................... 12........ 17........ 15..... 44
    Esbit TC3 Titanium........................... 12........ 9........ 12..... 33
    Sea to Summit 7075-T6 Aircraft Alloy..... 7.......... 6.......... 9..... 22


In conclusion then, whilst being the heaviest of the camp cutlery sets, the feel of the Life Venture kit is more solid than the others and in reality 44 grams is hardly heavy. Esbits offering, whilst lighter just doesn’t cut the mustard, you could cut down the LV pieces and save the weight but still have full adult size heads. The Gelert Lexan by contrast is very chunky but somehow doesn’t give a very good eating experience. Which just leaves the Sea to Summit Alpha Light set, yes they are light but not at the cost of size or useability, they lose a little on looks so not quite a perfect score.

The ultra ultralight option doesn’t appeal to me at all – a spork and knife combo could easily come in at under 20 grams, there are even knife / spork all in one combos – I prefer something with a bit more practicality myself. Still, I’m sure someone is working on an even lighter set.

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A comparative shot of the knives,
l to r. Domestic stainless steel, Gelert Lexan, Life Venture Ti, Esbit Ti and Sea to Summit Al.
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Hi,
A spoon............. well you did ask :)
I have this for the last.............40 years same set probably.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Camping-UK-St ... t_75wt_958
I doubt the design has changed in all that time 75 g or there about.
Sometimes I just take the spoon from kit.
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I bought the Sea to Summit set a couple of Xmas's ago when Sports Direct were selling them at a very good price. As you say they're not pretty but they're certainly light - you have to be careful that they don't blow away in a strong wind! :lol:
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Titanium spork and an Opinel knife.
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Or you could try one of these weighing in at a claimed 20g - knife, fork & spoon in one :D

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Looks interesting but I've no first hand experience.

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Ti cutlery

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€49 :shock:
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I just use a basic plastic spork which weighs all of 12g. I wasn't expecting it to last long but I've had it 3 years now. You obviously can't cut up a steak with it, but it's fine for my usual camping food - pasta, rice, noodles, etc.
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I have the Lhoon (a long handled Ti spoon) and a Swiss Army knife.

Unfortunately they appear to have replaced it with a Spork version. :(

The Lhoon is so handy that I always leave it in the bike's saddle/rack bag even when not camping.
I am quite fond of the odd tin of cold Heinz baked beans at the roadside.
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Bamboo chopsticks?
If you also pack a drinking straw there is no need for a spoon.
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I used to take a normal fork from the kitchen and a very sharp lock knife (Opinel usually). The knife was used from whittling sticks, to chopping veg to eating with. Obviously now though you cant take a lock knife, but a good swiss army fulfills the same role and you get a corkscrew on it as well...
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I took some convincing (Well, getting a left handed version instead of the original), but one of these - http://www.lightmyfire.com/products/wil ... ginal.aspx
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+1 to chopsticks. I love cooking with japanese food. so i'll cook something in the evening (rice based obviously!!) with chopsticks and eat it with the same pair. The spare rice then goes into making nori rolls with slices of veg for eating the next day. The spare food goes into making other delicious treats completing my bento box for the next day, along with the ubiquitous honey+/banana or peanut butter power bars i take everywhere. Not a spoon or fork to be seen everywhere. Obviously a sharp knife is needed for chopping veggies.

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andymiller wrote:Titanium spork and an Opinel knife.


The titanium spork is currently £14 at Rohan. (Cheaper elsewhere.) They recently sent me a £10 gift card which has to be used before Crimbo. Working on the basis that the smaller the starting price of the purchase, the greater the percentage saving, I'm going to get one of these for £4. My camping days are over but my grandchildren are going regularly so one of them can have it - and we'll see how quickly they can lose it. :lol:
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actually I was thinking of the titanium spork from backpacking light.co.uk (although pedants might argue that it is in fact a 'sfoon'). £5.99 (although they have a standard £5 per order delivery charge).

http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/cooki ... QA101.html

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I prefer this design to the lightmyfire design - although it is very nice.

If you're going to let the grandchildren loose with them then a four pack of the lightmyfire plastic ones might be a better option (or even the Tesco copies).
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