Saw this sign which was for regular intervals over a short bit of road in County Durham. Wondered what it was all about because in C.Durham it's not particularly unusual.
But then I found each of the signs were accompanied by rumble strips ie four rasied strips of tarmac across the road you normally see them painted yellow but these weren't painted. Shook me and my bike to bits . So if the council is trying to make this a nice cycling road they failed
It was a Countryside Agency scheme a few years ago; they're also to be found in Norfolk, the Chilterns, Lancashire, Wiltshire, and Kent, I think. Nice idea but I'm not sure if it ever made any difference to driver behaviour.
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Richard Fairhurst wrote:It was a Countryside Agency scheme a few years ago; they're also to be found in Norfolk, the Chilterns, Lancashire, Wiltshire, and Kent, I think. Nice idea but I'm not sure if it ever made any difference to driver behaviour.
Given the size and placement of the signs. Small and down low it's unlikely car drivers will notice them. In any case no idea what it's supposed to convey.
They are found in the Chilterns without associated rumble strips. Also encountered them on the Isle of Wight accompanied by granite stones laid out in strips almost like a cattle grid which are pretty dangerous for cyclists.
The first designated Quiet Lane in County Durham was Pontop Pike Lane about eight years ago. I cycle or walk it almost every day - in fact, I got back about twenty minutes ago.
It is certainly quite well used by cyclists and walkers during the summer months. It doesn't get a great deal of motorised traffic - I can often cycle (or even walk) the mile and a half along the lane to and from the C2C and see no vehicle until crossing the A693.
Fortunately, it doesn't have rumble lines to shake me up! Mark - if you hadn't said the lane you were on had rumble lines, I almost thought your photo was looking west to the top of PPL.
I believe it has a 20mph limit but if there were ever any signs, they have disappeared.
Mark1978 wrote:Saw this sign which was for regular intervals over a short bit of road in County Durham. Wondered what it was all about because in C.Durham it's not particularly unusual.
But then I found each of the signs were accompanied by rumble strips ie four rasied strips of tarmac across the road you normally see them painted yellow but these weren't painted. Shook me and my bike to bits . So if the council is trying to make this a nice cycling road they failed
DfT wrote: Quiet Lanes are minor rural roads or networks of minor rural roads appropriate for shared use by walkers, cyclists, horse riders and other vehicles. The aim of Quiet Lanes is to maintain the character of minor rural roads by seeking to contain rising traffic growth that is widespread in rural areas
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DfT wrote: A speed order authorises the authority to take measures, described in the order, to encourage motor vehicles and/or pedal cycles to travel below the speed specified in the order.
hence the rumble lines to encourage even pedal cycles to slow down.
The worst set of rumble strips that I know of, in my local area, are not on a public road, but on the entrance to our local branch of H*lfords. You certainly can't negotiate those with anything less than a full-sus mtb. If that....
Once you've got past that obstacle, there's nowhere to lock your bike anyway: the only secure loops are usually occupied by car trailers on display.
Seems like H*lf**ds don't actually want to encourage cyclists to come to their store....
Suppose that this room is a lift. The support breaks and down we go with ever-increasing velocity. Let us pass the time by performing physical experiments... --- Arthur Eddington (creator of the Eddington Number).
Surely you just take your bike INTO halfords - I do.
A shortcut has to be a challenge, otherwise it would just be the way.No situation is so dire that panic cannot make it worse. There are two kinds of people in this world: those can extrapolate from incomplete data.
It was a scheme to waste even more of OUR money. Many of the signs got defaced around here.
Al
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DfT wrote: Quiet Lanes are minor rural roads or networks of minor rural roads appropriate for shared use by walkers, cyclists, horse riders and other vehicles. The aim of Quiet Lanes is to maintain the character of minor rural roads by seeking to contain rising traffic growth that is widespread in rural areas
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DfT wrote: A speed order authorises the authority to take measures, described in the order, to encourage motor vehicles and/or pedal cycles to travel below the speed specified in the order.
hence the rumble lines to encourage even pedal cycles to slow down.
I've seen the signs when up in the Bowland area where MrJemm rides and I've often wonder what the intention was,well not so much the intention but the effect as I did think I had a vague idea of what the signs could mean . Wouldn't it have been better for all concerned to display a 20mph roundel at the appropriate height,with the "quiet lane" notice just beneath it? It seems so stupid for a sign to be displayed that no one knows the exact meaning of unless they choose to search for the meaning of in some DfT pdf,and at a height that the sign for whom the warning is primarily aimed at,where they are least likely to see it Bonkers is a word that springs readily to mind!
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Fellwanderer wrote:The first designated Quiet Lane in County Durham was Pontop Pike Lane about eight years ago. I cycle or walk it almost every day - in fact, I got back about twenty minutes ago.
It is certainly quite well used by cyclists and walkers during the summer months. It doesn't get a great deal of motorised traffic - I can often cycle (or even walk) the mile and a half along the lane to and from the C2C and see no vehicle until crossing the A693.
Fortunately, it doesn't have rumble lines to shake me up! Mark - if you hadn't said the lane you were on had rumble lines, I almost thought your photo was looking west to the top of PPL.
I believe it has a 20mph limit but if there were ever any signs, they have disappeared.