Cycling UK Forum

I avoid cycling in big towns and cities wherever possible. One only has to visit places like China and India to see where the human race is heading. These places are vastly overpopulated already, blanketed in smog, short of water, short of land to grow food and it will only get worse. China are holding back the population tide, just. But India is rip roaring ahead. Its a pleasure to get back to Blighty from these places which are colourful and exciting but ultimately doomed.
As far as I am concerned the UK is full. We should resist population expansion and balance our population or try to reduce it. The best thing to do with any increase in population is to sprinkle it around evenly. We dont need new cities, the ones we have will do fine. Its the quality of life that matters to each of us, its what we all strive for.
As for the guilded South its already full of notherners, midlanders, cornishmen, welshmen and scots, all seeking good jobs and nice surroundings. If many more come it will be spoilt.

Al

al_yrpal wrote:As for the guilded South its already full of notherners, midlanders, cornishmen, welshmen and scots, all seeking good jobs and nice surroundings. If many more come it will be spoilt.

Al

The same could be said for the entire south of Scotland, especially Dumfries and Galloway. Are you suggesting we turf all the retired English out come the Referendum ans sessation?

Thats a very racist and unpragmatic ideology. 'Send them back?'

Are you really living in the 21st century?

ScotchEgg wrote:

al_yrpal wrote:As for the guilded South its already full of notherners, midlanders, cornishmen, welshmen and scots, all seeking good jobs and nice surroundings. If many more come it will be spoilt.

Al

The same could be said for the entire south of Scotland, especially Dumfries and Galloway. Are you suggesting we turf all the retired English out come the Referendum ans sessation?

Thats a very racist and unpragmatic ideology. 'Send them back?'

Are you really living in the 21st century?

Where did al_yrpal say "Send them back" ? I don't believe it is implied anywhere in his post. Calling a recognition that population cannot continue expanding at it current rate "racist" is rather inflammatory however (as well as wrong): Was this deliberate?

al_yrpal wrote:As for the guilded South its already full of notherners, midlanders, cornishmen, welshmen and scots, all seeking good jobs and nice surroundings. If many more come it will be spoilt.

Al

I am doing my bit to balance this- escaped to the North, and far happier!



Though I am not sure of any of the above moving to the South for the nice surroundings... Bar the Midlands (sorry Si, etc.), those places are where folk go for the scenery and surroundings on holiday!

And if the South is guilded, the 'incomers' will struggle to get jobs surely?

Ray wrote:

tyreon wrote:Reports tell that the UKs population may well reach 130,000,000 in some years time. With current recorded immigration levels we will have to build 2 new Birminghams within 30 years...where should we build these houses,factories,roads.

I'm tempted to guess the source of this 'report'. Perhaps you could tell us, please?

I believe he may be including the rats.

I've been spending the last few weeks trying and failing to drive the rats away from our compost bin . Put down poison bait time and time again, and the little devils absolutely thrive on the stuff - gobble it all up and keep on coming back for more.

I reckon they'll be the dominant species in the not too distant future...

661-Pete wrote:I believe he may be including the rats.

- in which case 130mill. is certainly an underestimate!

I've been spending the last few weeks trying and failing to drive the rats away from our compost bin . Put down poison bait time and time again, and the little devils absolutely thrive on the stuff - gobble it all up and keep on coming back for more.

Are you sure they're rats? We had them in our compost bins. I forked the bins over while accompanied by our cat. Great fun. The rats didn't come back.

661-Pete wrote:
I've been spending the last few weeks trying and failing to drive the rats away from our compost bin . Put down poison bait time and time again, and the little devils absolutely thrive on the stuff - gobble it all up and keep on coming back for more.
:

I have recently had to empty and move the compost bin, but I think they are still in that corner of the garden.
They ignore the traps and (appear to) thrive on the poison, I am hoping for a good hard winter to shift them

Ray wrote:Are you sure they're rats?

No - eez pedigree Siberian 'amsters.... but I think dey rats.....

Ray wrote:We had them in our compost bins. I forked the bins over while accompanied by our cat. Great fun. The rats didn't come back.

Well - Mrs P has been forking over the bin - and although we don't have a cat, several of the neighbourhood cats are often to be seen prowling around. But the little blighters keep coming back. Every day there are fresh tunnels and droppings - and Mrs P has been face to face with one, more than once...

Incidentally, the old urban myth "you're never more than ten feet from a rat" is just that - a myth - apparently. But in our garden.... I keep on saying, so long as they don't come near the house, should we just ignore them?

Q. What happens to a bacteria culture when it runs out of Petridish?

A. It dies.



When populations become excessively large, nature finds a control strategy.
Next year’s meteor strike, for instance.

Birmingham New Street Stn, April 2014

al_yrpal wrote:As for the guilded South its already full of notherners, midlanders, cornishmen, welshmen and scots, all seeking good jobs and nice surroundings. If many more come it will be spoilt.

Al

Of course it is. They do the jobs requiring a higher level of intellect than that of the natives...

Name me a Cockneyland person who has contributed toward the greater good?

Mick F wrote:There are literally square miles of sites already within city and town boundaries that can be developed for housing. When these are full, it is then that we need to expand outwards.......

And no small amount of them are car parks
Until we get a grip and stop building roads like they're going out of fashion and rethink our transport policy it'll only get worse IMO.

Ayesha wrote:Q. What happens to a bacteria culture when it runs out of Petridish?

A. It dies.................................

Exactly - the study of history isn't the study of trends it's the study of discontinuities. Extrapolating from the current trend to predict the future is the easy bit. You also have to predict where the model changes and what it changes to.

Ayesha wrote:Name me a Cockneyland person who has contributed toward the greater good?

Keats - now stop being silly.

al_yrpal wrote:As for the guilded South its already full of notherners, midlanders, cornishmen, welshmen and scots, all seeking good jobs and nice surroundings. If many more come it will be spoilt.

Al

If you asked you would find that the cornishmen would mostly prefer to stay in Cornwall (or at least return after completing their education), but many are forced out by the gilded South Easterners coming down and buying up all the cottages as second homes, forcing house prices up way beyond the means of locals in the lowest paid area of the country. Good jobs are harder to come by than in the South East admittedly, due to competition from incomers from the rest of the UK who want to live and work down here due to the percieved better quality of life, as nice surroundings are plentiful.