Chain tool with 'pin stop'

[Dynamite_funk]

Hello all. I had a chain tool on my crank brothers multi tool which had a handy stopper which prevented you from pushing the pin too far out of the chain link. I am wanting to get another for my gf so it is as easy as possible for her to fix her chain if it does break at some point.

Does anyone have one to recommend? I'm not looking for another multi tool, just the chain tool.

[robgul]

Not the answer to your question (in true cycling forum style !!)

... but my suggestion would be a bog-ordinary chain tool - push the pin(s) out and carry a magic link to use to effect an instant re-join repair. Quicker and simpler, and less chance of a stiff-link reconnection or failure.

Rob

[Mick F]

+1
Carry a quick link.

I've never heard of a "pin stop".
How does it know how wide the chain is or how long the pins are?

[531colin]

9 and 10 speed chains (and even some "modern" 8 speed ) don't take kindly to being joined by riveting, so its +1 from me for a magic link.

Mick.....theres one here that's adjustable for different chain widths.http://www.jejamescycles.co.uk/bbb-nautilus-ii-chain-rivet-tool-btl-05-id67171.html....but the operator has to adjust it, its doesn't "know" ...the "anvil" bit is on a screwthread..

[bigjim]

I find magic links alright for connecting a chain but not so magic when it comes to disconnecting them. Some better than others.

[cycleruk]

I find magic links alright for connecting a chain but not so magic when it comes to disconnecting them. Some better than others.

Very easy to disconnect with pliers. Just put the jaws on diagonal corners of the link and squeeze.
You have to pick the correct corners though.
But when out on a ride you are unlikely to want to split a chain.

[StellaLdn.]

I find magic links alright for connecting a chain but not so magic when it comes to disconnecting them. Some better than others.

Very easy to disconnect with pliers. Just put the jaws on diagonal corners of the link and squeeze.
You have to pick the correct corners though.
But when out on a ride you are unlikely to want to split a chain.

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Only if it's the right width. I've had to break the chain at the rivet after putting in the quick link.

[geocycle]

I find magic links alright for connecting a chain but not so magic when it comes to disconnecting them. Some better than others.

Very easy to disconnect with pliers. Just put the jaws on diagonal corners of the link and squeeze.
You have to pick the correct corners though.
But when out on a ride you are unlikely to want to split a chain.

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Only if it's the right width. I've had to break the chain at the rivet after putting in the quick link.

Yes, and with some links eg SRAM you have to squeeze the link together at the same time with your other hand!

[Redvee]

When I had the same 8 speed Sedis, now Sram, chains on both my bikes I found a nut of the same thread pitch/diameter onto my Cyclo Rivoli chain tool and after much filing screwed it onto the shaft of the tool. Still go the tool though the pin isn't as straight as it used to be which was the death of many Rivolis.

[robgul]

I find magic links alright for connecting a chain but not so magic when it comes to disconnecting them. Some better than others.

Very easy to disconnect with pliers. Just put the jaws on diagonal corners of the link and squeeze.
You have to pick the correct corners though.
But when out on a ride you are unlikely to want to split a chain.

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... or invest a modest amount in the Park Tool gadget that's designed to undo magic links (a pair of pliers with hooked noses on the jaws, locks into the roller link and pushes the magic link open ... no damage so the link can be reused) .... saves on cut fingers and getting them trapped in the jaws of pliers!

Rob

[RickH]

I find magic links alright for connecting a chain but not so magic when it comes to disconnecting them. Some better than others.

Very easy to disconnect with pliers. Just put the jaws on diagonal corners of the link and squeeze.
You have to pick the correct corners though.
But when out on a ride you are unlikely to want to split a chain.

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Link1 (Large).JPG

Or use a Wippermann Connex quick link that just needs fingers

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Rick.

[CREPELLO]

On the road with a quick link that needs undoing there's a trick that CJ has described before now. Mount the quick link section of chain on the outer chain ring to form an inverted V shape with the adjacent link. This puts some slack in the QL and exposes the end of the QL. You then find a handy stone of sufficient proportion and apply a strike to the edge of the QL outer plate only, ensuring that it forces the plate(s) to slide open. Hit the wrong side or direction will result in frustration.

[Dynamite_funk]

I'm not really talking about quick links. I have attacehd a picture of the tool I'm talking about with the 'pin stop' highlighted by a red arrow. I found it very handy as you could never 'pop the pin out' accidently by turning the handle too far when fixing a snapped chain.

I left mine on the train along with the rest of my mini tool kit and never got it back despite calls to the rail company

edit: It's 8 speed!!

[LollyKat]

You could count the number of turns of the tool. Years ago Chris Juden pointed out in the CTC mag that 11 half turns of a Cyclo chain tool pushed the pin out just far enough to break the chain but no more. I used this method very successfully for years with the 7/8-speed chains of the time. Obviously it depends on the pitch of the thread and you would need to experiment.

[RickH]

The main problems with a tool with a fixed stop like that are that it will only work with one width of chain &, unless there is another chain slot, there is no way to remove a link completely if you need to shorten a chain.

Rick.