Epoxy Resin Solvents to unglue chainsets!

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bramble
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Epoxy Resin Solvents to unglue chainsets!

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I bought a Giant Carbon frame bike on the CTC Complete Bikes Thread on 5 January 2014, and immediately took it my LBS for a full service. They recommended a new cassette, chain, outer ring on the Truvavix(?) chainset that the CTC member had fitted to 'upgrade' from a double. The spacings in the bottom bracket apparently are all wrong and the triple does not work BUT the threads on left hand crank have been stripped and glued back in with epoxy resin glue like Araldite.

I have emailed the CTC member who sold me the bike but no reply. The LBS and I would like to know how best to get the offending crank off the frame without damage to the frame and a replacement that actually works. Are there any non lifethreatening solution to release epoxy resin glue :?:
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If the crank is effectively "finished with" I don't understand why you wouldn't just cut it off?
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A simple google search immediately returns this http://www.cooksongold.com/Enamelling/E ... wwodbzwA9g

From your description it sounds as if they want to replace the bottom bracket not the chainset, so do they mean the crank is glued onto the bottom bracket axle or the left hand bottom bracket cup is glued into the frame with epoxy. If the latter anything that dissolves epoxy is also likely to dissolve the frame given it's made from carbon reinforced resin.
I'd have though a carbon frame with an epoxied in bottom bracket is effectively a write off once the BB is no longer viable, though I suppose if you kept using the same sort of BB you could keep reusing the left hand shell without removing it.
With steel it's a different matter as heat could be used as a last resort.

BTW Just because someone posts a bike for sale on this forum it doesn't mean they are a CTC member - anyone can register.
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pete75 wrote: From your description it sounds as if they want to replace the bottom bracket not the chainset, so do they mean the crank is glued onto the bottom bracket axle or the left hand bottom bracket cup is glued into the frame with epoxy. If the latter anything that dissolves epoxy is also likely to dissolve the frame given it's made from carbon reinforced resin.
I'd have though a carbon frame with an epoxied in bottom bracket is effectively a write off once the BB is no longer viable.
With steel it's a different matter as heat could be used as a last resort.



in some cases the LH cup can stay in place whilst the rest of the chainset and BB are replaced. You don't say what kind of BB and chainset you have exactly (truvativ make dozens of different models) but if you can post a picture then maybe someone can help.

If you have an H-II type BB unit then you can usually leave the LH cup in place and still change the bearing itself. Arguably the net result isn't that much different to a BB30 type BB unit, where the bearings press into the frame itself.

BTW how does the LBS know that the threads are damaged in the frame? It is a fair guess if the LH cup is glued in I suppose, but still a guess.

It may be possible to mechanically remove the parts from the frame and then bond a replacement in, or use a threadless BB unit. Whilst these are not ideal solutions, it can at least allow you to have a functional bike.

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Many many thanks for the helpful replies and advice. The LBS has just rung up to say that they have managed to get the bottom bracket out of the bike. The left hand crank was glued onto the axle and something else was completely corroded and rusted onto the axle. But with a bit of leverage and slightly warming things up with an axle grinder (!), the resin released its grip. As a CTC member i take the point about it is an open forum and caveat emptor, but all my past purchases of bits and pieces have until now been exemplary..but it beggars belief that people would glue cranks. :(
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bramble wrote:but it beggars belief that people would glue cranks. :(



Seems bizarre to say the least.....
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I tried repairing my radiator top hose connection in my Mini some years ago. The top and bottom of the modern radiators are plastic and the pipe outlet on the top had broken.

I set about with Araldite and made an excellent watertight job of it. Trouble was, after the radiator got nice and hot ..................... the Araldite went soft and my leak returned!

Therefore, warm your crank up with a heat gun, and it will go soft.
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