Mud flap on guards
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Garry Booth
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Mud flap on guards
What's the best way of extending the protection from spray offered to riders behind? I mean, can you buy a narrow flap to add to the existing guard? What's a good DIY solution? What fixing to use that doesn't crack the guard? I want something reasonably streamlined to sit behind a 25mm tyre.
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Re: Mud flap on guards
Garry Booth wrote:What's the best way of extending the protection from spray offered to riders behind? I mean, can you buy a narrow flap to add to the existing guard? What's a good DIY solution? What fixing to use that doesn't crack the guard? I want something reasonably streamlined to sit behind a 25mm tyre.
Bleach bottles are a good source for Heath Robinson mudguard flap's
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Re: Mud flap on guards
I make my own using "DPC" (damp proof course plastic) - any reasonable plastic will do such as a milk bottle etc.
I fit them using pop-rivets and large washers. Drill holes in the guards first then rivet the flap in place.
You can make them any shape or length you want.
I fit them using pop-rivets and large washers. Drill holes in the guards first then rivet the flap in place.
You can make them any shape or length you want.
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Re: Mud flap on guards
Length of duct tape on the rear mudguard. I use this with a double length folded over and stuck inside and outside of the mudguard.
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I use screen wash five litre containers to cut mud flaps out of. The rear doesnt need to be wide it can be long and thin. To attach I find a hot glue gun the best. If you roughen the plastic of the guard with course sandpaper or a file you will find it gives better adhesion. Stick inside the tail of the guard. I also drill a couple of holes in the mudflap so the glue pushes through to give a plastic rivett you have to be careful though as the glue is hot.
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For a rear flap to protect following riders, I've found it best to use a fairly narrow strip of something reasonably stiff. I use a strip about 5cm wide cut from a WHS ring binder. I've also seen a ~1" rigid uPVC cable trunking cover strip used, which worked well, though I wouldn't like to comment on strain on the actual mudguard.
Narrow is for aerodynamics, and stiff to to ensure it doesn't blow sideways too easily (a crosswind isn't required - the left/right drag difference from a less than absolutely perfectly lined up flap will swing it to one side). It should be long enough to reach to within 4 or 5 inches of the ground. Shorter and your companions will still get sprayed.
Front flaps to keep your own feet and drivetrain clean should be wider (8-10 cm), heavier and more flexible, and reach closer to the ground (3 or 4 cm). Something like 1.5 or 2 mm butyl sheet. I'm using a stick-on sole for a shoe. Weight and flexiblity is desired so that water spray doesn't move it aside, but riding over or past something solid does.
I attach with either pop-rivets or a small nut & bolt, nut outside.
It could also be worth sticking reflective tape to the rear flap when it's new & clean. Something like this, though you would want to find somewhere selling it by the metre
Narrow is for aerodynamics, and stiff to to ensure it doesn't blow sideways too easily (a crosswind isn't required - the left/right drag difference from a less than absolutely perfectly lined up flap will swing it to one side). It should be long enough to reach to within 4 or 5 inches of the ground. Shorter and your companions will still get sprayed.
Front flaps to keep your own feet and drivetrain clean should be wider (8-10 cm), heavier and more flexible, and reach closer to the ground (3 or 4 cm). Something like 1.5 or 2 mm butyl sheet. I'm using a stick-on sole for a shoe. Weight and flexiblity is desired so that water spray doesn't move it aside, but riding over or past something solid does.
I attach with either pop-rivets or a small nut & bolt, nut outside.
It could also be worth sticking reflective tape to the rear flap when it's new & clean. Something like this, though you would want to find somewhere selling it by the metre
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To attach the flap I prefer to drill 2 holes and thread a cable tie through - it won't rust and is easy to remove or replace. The holes about an inch apart, on the centre line of the mudguard
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I use some from here.
http://www.buddyflaps.com/
http://www.buddyflaps.com/
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thirdcrank
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Re: Mud flap on guards
Forum member yorkshireman - we don't seem to have heard from him recently - is a mudflap guru. You could try searching his posts.
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Fixed with a single bolt.I use a section cut from an old black bucket or plant pot.
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Re: Mud flap on guards
I use a bleach bottle as some of those above, the domestos one has a handy ridge to locate the flap vertically, I fix it with a couple of cable ties ,again as above, but I heat up a screwdriver or something similar on the stove to form the holes, this seals the edges of the holes ,thus avoiding cracks hopefully. I tried using water bottles ,nice and light but too brittle and failed after a couple of months and got blown onto the tyre by crosswinds.You can make two from one bottle, other makes are available etc.Bleach bottle seems a good consistency to me.
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Feel free to criticise I can always learn, I should have blended it in a bit better at the top I know I might use it as a tie if it doesn't work out.
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julk wrote:I use some from here.
http://www.buddyflaps.com/
Where did you buy them?
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mjr wrote:julk wrote:I use some from here.
http://www.buddyflaps.com/
Where did you buy them?
I bought them from the website, price in dollars.
They were posted to the UK for no extra cost, just the usual credit card charge for currency conversion from $s to £s.
They made a nice Christmas present.