Cyclist Wrong Side Of Road

[Bicycler]

Yes, I was more questioning such things as bridleways and old railway paths. It would be sensible to keep left on these, but I'm not sure you could use the RTAs to enforce it.

The definition of 'road' in the RTAs is circular, a road is defined as "any highway and any other road to which the public has access". So a road is a subcategory of road Highway is less ambiguous as that includes all public rights of way from A-roads to footpaths, so Bridleways are definitely included as would any railway paths which are legally footpaths or cycle tracks (most?). Read this way it makes sense that the second part of the definition is intended to extend the act to all other such ways which aren't public highways but which the public can use. Thus I think all public paths cyclists ride are covered but it would be helpful if somebody who really knew their stuff could confirm this. Thirdcrank?

[drossall]

Yes, I see what you mean, but a court would have to be willing to use all that to apportion blame, in a collision between two cyclists on a bridleway. I can't quite see this happening, in the absence of other obvious evidence of recklessness.

[NATURAL ANKLING]

Hi,
"C" roads...I just pulled that out of the hat, on older OS maps you had Red "A" roads, Brown "B" roads, Yellow ? Over 4 or 4.3 M ? Then there was Light Yellow or dashed ?
They have changed the colours several times on the Non "A" & "B" roads / Varies From 1" - 1 & 1/4" - Outdoor Liesure - Explorer maps.

Non coloured roads are unclasified unmetaled / can be metaled / tracks.

Interestingly a track with a bridle path running along it is just being metaled (crudely) on the same route I was on the other day, just a muddy track before, I say muddy but there is evidence of hardcore so was originally a road of sorts, I will have to find out why.

[drossall]

C roads do exist. To prove it, there are photographs. They are also mentioned on the SABRE site, which I first came across during an A-road challenge (think that was on another site).

[Mark1978]

C roads, and others such as U roads, do indeed exist but they are specific to a local authority and only exist in local authority numbering systems. They are indeed sometimes signed by this is usually by mistake, and it's certainly not true to say that all 'yellow' roads on OS maps are C roads.

[Bicycler]

Yes, I see what you mean, but a court would have to be willing to use all that to apportion blame, in a collision between two cyclists on a bridleway. I can't quite see this happening, in the absence of other obvious evidence of recklessness.

I'm guessing it is very rare for any civil claim arising from such a collision to end up in court but if it did the Highway Code would be mentioned by either or both parties and a decision would have to be made. Given likely safe speeds and surfacing on bridleways I agree that it would be unlikely for positioning to be the sole and deciding factor and other recklessness (excessive speed, inadequate observation) would be much more important factors. It would also be fairly irrelevant on many bridleways which are singletrack to begin with.

[Ayesha]

Give way to vehicles CLIMBING a hill.

[Ayesha]

A collision of two cyclists on a bridleway is settled 'out of court'.

The winner goes home, the loser hobbles to Hospital.

[pete75]

Its a single track road, no passing places, what would you do.

Doesn't that rather depend on the width of vehicles using it - for example a single track road for a lorry is wider than a single track road for a car which in turn is wider than a single track road for a bicycle....

[NATURAL ANKLING]

Hi,

Its a single track road, no passing places, what would you do.

Doesn't that rather depend on the width of vehicles using it - for example a single track road for a lorry is wider than a single track road for a car which in turn is wider than a single track road for a bicycle....

Single track road less than 4M in most cases, add hedges debris then you are down to 2.5 M and a car a bike are too tight I.M.O.
I am only talking a bicycle passing a bicycle in opposite derections in this case.
On most of thae single track roads where I live in devon they can be just 2 M from hedge to hedge.
When I see that me and another user will struggle to pass then I dive for a gate, stop and lean in the hedge or on verdge, even turn a for a wider spot like I did the other day with a hedge cutter.

When I am in my camper which is 2M wide at the body, I very often just reverse as I am acomplished at it. also your typical sunday driver with power steering which I have not at 3T gross CANT............. I just take it calm and watch with amusement at the driver hitting both hedges or wall boiles up and curses me with their stares

[Mark1978]

Was going down hill (nothing massive mind) on a single track road in the Yorkshire Dales at the weekend, car in front stopped suddenly to allow an approaching car to use a passing place, almost went to the back of him as my brakes suck. I need to get better brakes, and to take more care!

[snibgo]

"Keep left" when meeting oncoming traffic, or to allow following traffic to overtake, is for highways, not just roads. It comes from the much-loved Highways Act 1835 s78.

If I understand the law correctly, when there is no other traffic, we can cycle (or drive) on whichever side of the road we please, but subject to white lines, "keep left" bollards, etc.