The End of Campagnolo Triples?

[Mick F]

Yes, but out of stock even though it's a good price.
I wonder that because Campag don't make them any more, they'll be unlikely to be re-stocked.
Last made in 2013 or was it 2012?

[pete75]

This is in stock
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-t ... 0000000000

along with

http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-t ... 0000000000

[Mick F]

1. They're black.
2. They are only Veloce or Centaur.

Nowt actually wrong with either of these points, but I don't want them, and would rather pay more for shiny bling and a higher level. Comp is good, and Chorus better.

[pete75]

1. They're black.
2. They are only Veloce or Centaur.

Nowt actually wrong with either of these points, but I don't want them, and would rather pay more for shiny bling and a higher level. Comp is good, and Chorus better.

Chorus is 229g lighter than the Comp at 238g and , given that Campag components get lighter the "higher" you go, is likely to be above Comp in the Campag hierarchy. Veloce and Comp both weigh 238g.

[Mick F]

It's not just weight that makes the difference.
It's the finish that improves with the higher end groups. Chorus and Record are the same finish and almost identical, and Comp very similar too.

Talking 10sp of course. Newer stuff I have no real knowledge.

Trouble with Chorus and Record, is that the outer plate of the parallelogram is carbon fibre. The CF works well and nice but the cable clamp area crumbles over the years. I've had to add a washer as the cable won't grip without it now so would prefer Comp than Chorus, and I refuse to go to the expense of Record.

[gfk_velo]

OK, I checked - Veloce & Centaur triple are all finished for 2015.

Current option is therefore Athena triple.

Other possibilities are to use 9 or 10s pre-2009 Ergos with a third party triple chain set and a short, medium or long cage Campag 10s RD according to the maximum sprocket size and total tooth difference you are looking to accommodate.

Post 2009 ErgoPower (i.e. UltraShift) is NOT designed to work with a triple. It has 7 clicks but the last 4 are not used and the levers don't *reliably* hold them *in all cases* (before I am deluged with posts saying "it works fine on mine" ) ... This is the reason that Campag made the "T" versions of the PowerShift lever and recommend their use.

Remember that if you are using Campag product with a third parties' items, the full warranty (if that is important to you) may not apply.

HTH
Graeme
Velotech Cycling Ltd - Campagnolo main UK SC

[gfk_velo]

It's not just weight that makes the difference.
It's the finish that improves with the higher end groups. Chorus and Record are the same finish and almost identical, and Comp very similar too.

Talking 10sp of course. Newer stuff I have no real knowledge.

Trouble with Chorus and Record, is that the outer plate of the parallelogram is carbon fibre. The CF works well and nice but the cable clamp area crumbles over the years. I've had to add a washer as the cable won't grip without it now so would prefer Comp than Chorus, and I refuse to go to the expense of Record.

Hi Mick - normally the clamp area shouldn't "crumble" unless you are changing cables and over-torquing the clamp bolt by a lot, or are not using the cable clamp washer correctly ... We have material that we use for teaching that have carbon outer plates that get cable changed tens of times a month and are still OK after a couple of years ... I guess the only difference is that the teaching material doesn't get exposed to weather that much (it is used on the road, though, on event support). Have you got some images I can see? I'd be interested to try and work out what's going on - that's kinda my job ...

[123malford]

http://sprockets.uk.com/campagnolo-cham ... long-cage/ there is this. I did wonder whether the difference between a Champ and a Comp derailleur was merely its inscription, provided that it is not CF but anodising used in the Champ. I use a Comp on one bike -- it works well.

[Mick F]

Hi Mick - normally the clamp area shouldn't "crumble" unless you are changing cables and over-torquing the clamp bolt by a lot, or are not using the cable clamp washer correctly ..

I used the word "crumble" to illustrate the problem, but TBH it's possibly not the right word. "Chipped" may be better.

I'm not aware of over-torquing or misusing the clamp system, but as I've said on another thread, the mech had done 21,000miles - slightly more.

I'm taking the mech off this morning to look at the top boss and securing bolt. I'll take some photographs.

[Mick F]

Hi Mick - normally the clamp area shouldn't "crumble" unless you are changing cables and over-torquing the clamp bolt by a lot, or are not using the cable clamp washer correctly ..

I used the word "crumble" to illustrate the problem, but TBH it's possibly not the right word. "Chipped" may be better.

Stripped it down and here's a couple of photos.

Seems like the area where the clamp sits is delaminating (rather than crumbling or chipping), as is the inner side.

Personally, I reckon that a CF outer parallelogram is a waste. Yes, I know it will make some weight (tiny) difference, but Alu would have been ok.

[pete75]

For those interested in thsi topic new Champ rear dérailleurs are available here for 45 quid http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Campagnolo-Ch ... 1c4303b0dd

[JohnW]

Try Geoffrey Butler Cycles - look at their website - they have Campag triples at prices ranging from £206 to £50.

[LWaB]

Sounds like Campag has made my future equipment choices very easy - Shimano all the way. A pity, given my loyalty over many years, but it was their doing.