Advance stop line being ignored

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Bicycler wrote:but it should have a dashed line section of line to the left (ie. where the filter would be if it had one)

Just to start you off heres one:-
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.3892334,-2.6427921,3a,75y,281.1h,52.58t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1swEffh_XtDrDSwlFlCGh2vA!2e0
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When I took my bike to Cardiff a few years ago, I was surprised that almost all of the ASLs that I saw there had the first line right across the road and no feeder lanes, making them no more legal for the cyclists than they were for the drivers, except possibly for me as I was entering them from the pavements leaving the Sustran's route on occasions.
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It is a fudge but that does not necessarily mean a lack of intent behind that fudge. Allowing cyclists to enter by any means would have been simpler than the fudge. I know that some ASL schemes were built without any break in the line but that is not a prescribed or authorised layout. In any case we should be free of this issue in the next couple of years. The draft Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2015 includes an amendment allowing cyclists to cross the line at any point.
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Saw a beauty on Friday at the junction between our two office buildings in Glasgow. Cyclist coming up to a changing light, coasts gently into the ASL and stops, Range Rover behind murders his horn while swerving round said cyclist to go around the junction on red. Wrong angle to get the reg or I'd have reported it.
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Psamathe wrote:Question: If you took a photo of a car sitting over an ASL area showing the vehicle, its number plate and the traffic lights on red, and you gave it to your local Police with a statement (agreeing to attend any court is necessary), would they do anything.

Interested because it would be less work for them to prosecute and, were it to go to court you would have to attend rather than the Police Officer (as no Police Officer would have been involved).


They'd wipe their **** with your submission.

I was cycling along Cheapside here in London once, when into the ASL rolled a flatbed van. Twenty feet in front of me (and ten feet behind the van) was a City of London plod on a bicycle.

'Afternoon,' I said, when I stopped next to him.

'Hi,' he replied.

'Erm,' I began. 'Shouldn't you be nicking him..?'

'Erm, I have to see him enter the box...' said the copper.

At this point, I have two choices. I can cycle away, or I can point out to him that *I* saw the van enter the ASL, so unless the copper was as blind as a bat, *he* saw him too.

I couldn't be bothered, so just wished him a pleasant day, and cycled on.

Policing in London is a sick joke. It's a free-for-all, and the police really can't be asked. Question them about it, and they'll come out with ******* excuses.
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Saw a private taxi this morning roll into the box and then out the other side stopping with half the car over the last stop line.
Not the worse I've seen, once saw a taxi roll all the way through and stop well clear of all the stop lines (with a view to making a quick right turn to beat oncoming traffic when the lights change).
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kwackers wrote:Not the worse I've seen, once saw a taxi roll all the way through and stop well clear of all the stop lines (with a view to making a quick right turn to beat oncoming traffic when the lights change).

Yes, this is fast becoming common around here: roll over the stop line as far as you dare without getting hit by cross-traffic, to help trying to squeak through the next set of lights before they change. Screw anyone trying to walk over the crossing - they won't seriously damage the vehicle if you hit them.
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