So, what is snobbery?

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mrjemm wrote:........To me, this whole 'Black Friday' is a sick joke by the marketing men, being repeated by the media, and manipulating the public......


I bit more of "let's watch the plebs fight for crumbs" orchestrated by multinationals to show how (or)castrated we are :?

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reohn2 wrote:
I bit more of "let's watch the plebs fight for crumbs" orchestrated by multinationals to show how (or)castrated we are :?

What have we come to?

Asda and Tesco, mainly, AIUI :wink:
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Bonefishblues wrote:
reohn2 wrote:
I bit more of "let's watch the plebs fight for crumbs" orchestrated by multinationals to show how (or)castrated we are :?

What have we come to?

Asda and Tesco, mainly, AIUI :wink:


In this context agreed,but there's nothing isolated about it to a greater or lesser extent,in an unbridled capitalist state.
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I think that most of the people in the class that I come from would see me as a snob.
That leaves all the rest of the population seeing me as a left wing radical with a severe case of inverted snobbery and a chip on his shoulder. :lol:

There are personal standards which I like in people and I have a pretty poor view of those who dont meet them, it happens that those standards are a little more common as you get wealthier or up the class ladder, not because of it but they tend to coincide to a small amount.

So things like cleaning the house, caring what I eat, caring about spelling, thinking beyond my neighbourhood, trying at school, going to University, independent travel, using other languages, not using absolutely diabolical grammar in common speech have somewhat alienated me from the bulk of my class.

So in a way I might share much of Mitchell's alleged world view but from a different perspective, I may even share Thornberry's attitude but it comes from the other side of the class barrier to the side they are coming from, I see the same sort of poor personal behaviour among the rich, new rich and higher class and because of my personal history and attitude I like them even less.

I think that there may be a lot of politicians out there who genuinely who want to do the best for mankind and the poor and disadvantaged of this country but still have to wash their hands after meeting any individual, in person.
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I despair. Out shopping in town this morning, at least two shops (one of the W H Smith) proudly displaying "Black Friday" special offers or whatnot. I mean, how many more of these unwelcome transpondian* imports are we set to receive? It's bad enough they inflicted Trick or Treat on us, will we have to celebrate Thanksgiving now? Or 4th July?

*Yes I know, using the word "transpondian" is snobbery in itself. So be it...
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661-Pete wrote:I despair. Out shopping in town this morning, at least two shops (one of the W H Smith) proudly displaying "Black Friday" special offers or whatnot. I mean, how many more of these unwelcome transpondian* imports are we set to receive? It's bad enough they inflicted Trick or Treat on us, will we have to celebrate Thanksgiving now? Or 4th July?

*Yes I know, using the word "transpondian" is snobbery in itself. So be it...


IMHO there's not much difference between Trick or Treat and Black Friday as they both end up with plebs acting stupid for ''sweets''! :roll: :roll:
I'll give thanks if the colonialists would take them back though,along with the School Prom :shock: What's all that about???? :?

Why can't we just carry on setting fire to effigies of people we're not supposed to like,like other civilised countries :shock: :mrgreen:
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reohn2 wrote:Why can't we just carry on setting fire to effigies of people we're not supposed to like,like other civilised countries :shock: :mrgreen:


Did you see the Lewes bonfire's Putin that they burned, absolutely brilliant? My friends in Maine think the same as we all do about Black Friday and Halloween, abhoring both of them. In Maine, by law, shops remain closed on Thanksgiving. That said, last year, before all the hoo ha I got a new TV from John Lewis at a price they have not yet repeated.

As an Engineer in my working life I never came across snobbery at work, Engineering seemed to be a classless profession and you could always share experiences and a bit of joshing with the craftsmen and techicians. There was a great cameradie and sense of purpose everywhere I worked. However, there is snobbery locally and it particularly centres around housing and location. I find its best ignored.

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reohn2 wrote:
661-Pete wrote:I despair. Out shopping in town this morning, at least two shops (one of the W H Smith) proudly displaying "Black Friday" special offers or whatnot. I mean, how many more of these unwelcome transpondian* imports are we set to receive? It's bad enough they inflicted Trick or Treat on us, will we have to celebrate Thanksgiving now? Or 4th July?

*Yes I know, using the word "transpondian" is snobbery in itself. So be it...


IMHO there's not much difference between Trick or Treat and Black Friday as they both end up with plebs acting stupid for ''sweets''! :roll: :roll:
I'll give thanks if the colonialists would take them back though,along with the School Prom :shock: What's all that about???? :?

Why can't we just carry on setting fire to effigies of people we're not supposed to like,like other civilised countries :shock: :mrgreen:


In my young days we had mischief night on the 4th November - an altogether more sinister event than trick or treat. The latter is preferable.

What happened on Black Friday seems little different to events in the once traditional news year sales held by British shops where some folk queued up all night and there were reports of mayhem when people were after the same items with even old ladies getting into fisticuffs. Same thing different time of year.

To use the word transpondian is pretentious not snobbish.
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pete75 wrote:In my young days we had mischief night on the 4th November - an altogether more sinister event than trick or treat. The latter is preferable.

I remember mischief night - I used to live in Yorkshire where it was endemic. Perhaps we could export that across the Atlantic - along with burning people in effigy (I think the Lewes folks have had more than one US Prez on the pyre before this).

What happened on Black Friday seems little different to events in the once traditional news year sales held by British shops where some folk queued up all night and there were reports of mayhem when people were after the same items with even old ladies getting into fisticuffs. Same thing different time of year.
Yep. Harrods sales and all that. Those were the days when I still used to laugh at the TV news. (*slaps self in face*) Laugh, Pete, laugh!

To use the word transpondian is pretentious not snobbish.
If I knew what the difference was, I'd say yes (*consults dictionary* :oops: )
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661-Pete wrote: how many more of these unwelcome transpondian* imports are we set to receive?


Looks like Grey Thursday could be next, coming to an Asda near you :cry:
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