i phone or Garmin? (or something else?)

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pete75 wrote:
Psamathe wrote:
Tonyf33 wrote:You can't swap the battery out (in 8 seconds on the galaxy) at all on an iphone and navigation and GPS drain batteries fairly heftily.

Actually you can. Takes a little longer than 8 seconds but you can replace the batteries. GPS drain is not too bad (I get 2 hrs use GPS on continually, recording a track (hi-res mode) plus all the other phone power consumption for 15% battery use).



Ian


A little longer? You're messing about with small screws which isn't ideal on the road.
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/apple ... e-battery/

It is not an "on-the-road" replacement. For such functionality you would need the other part of my post (of which several ARE available for the iPhone).

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I would like to recommend my phone to everyone..

Sony Xperia Z Ultra

The thing is huge Image


It's quite cheap nowadays £239 brand new on Amazon and even cheaper second hand on Ebay.
It's huge, waterproof, and the battery lasts ages even with the screen on all the time
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£239 is cheap?
You're not Richard Branson by any chance are you?
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Psamathe wrote:
pete75 wrote:
Psamathe wrote: "Tonyf33"]You can't swap the battery out (in 8 seconds on the galaxy) at all on an iphone and navigation and GPS drain batteries fairly heftily.
Actually you can. Takes a little longer than 8 seconds but you can replace the batteries. GPS drain is not too bad (I get 2 hrs use GPS on continually, recording a track (hi-res mode) plus all the other phone power consumption for 15% battery use).



Ian


A little longer? You're messing about with small screws which isn't ideal on the road.
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/apple ... e-battery/

It is not an "on-the-road" replacement. For such functionality you would need the other part of my post (of which several ARE available for the iPhone).

Ian


Tony was referring to an 8 second on the road battery swap and saying it wasn't possible on an Iphone. You implied it was and just takes a little longer. I agree a swap is possible but it's not really an on the road one. It also takes a lot longer than Tony's 8 seconds not the little longer you mentioned.

Is it possible to charge an iphone from a dynamo? My friends iphone would not charge by USB cable from my Axa Luxx 70 whereas every other device I've used with it has charged be it android, windows or blackberry.
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I would like to recommend my phone to everyone..

Sony Xperia Z Ultra


+1

Been using mine for AUdax navigation for the last year, ipbike for sensors route and osmand in the background for voice instructions.
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£239 is cheap?
You're not Richard Branson by any chance are you?


Have you seen the price of a Garmin 1000? £239 is cheap.
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Brucey wrote:IIRC there was quite a bit of excitement a few years ago at the prospect of 'electronic paper' for robust (near disposable cost) low-power display of data. It seems to me that this might be an ideal application. Did it ever make it out of the lab?

cheers


Yes - it's called e-ink, and is used in e-readers (which seem to be being killed by tablets ;( )

There are colour versions, but noone seems to actually produce anything sensible with them.
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shrewedpunter wrote:I would like to recommend my phone to everyone..

Sony Xperia Z Ultra

The thing is huge http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content ... a-App.jpeg
It's quite cheap nowadays £239 brand new on Amazon and even cheaper second hand on Ebay.
It's huge, waterproof, and the battery lasts ages even with the screen on all the time

I bet you cant fit that in a jacket or back pocket of any cycling jersey..and even if you could it not be a drag/uncomfortable. my SII lasts 3 days of use with the extended battery and is barely noticeable in any pocket.
Id hate to take something as
large as that purely for basic GPS purposes(which is what is asked for by the OP), maybe if you're going on tour and you want something bigger to watch videos/surf the web..

And as for the claim from the poster about changing batteries on iphones..I've done one and its not even remotely feasible on the road and takes a fair while in any case..trying to compare it to removing a back cover from most samsung's is absolutely ludicrous..
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I wouldn't bother with a spare battery for a samsung even - it's not as if you'll be able to use it with the next device, whereas a USB pack is likely to be good for several devices to come...
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I bet you cant fit that in a jacket or back pocket of any cycling jersey


Fits in my cycling top pockets fine. But it spends its time on the handlebars when I'm cycling. I chose the ultra because of the big screen. I can now see the map and stats without squinting. As I've said in many other posts, I've used Garmins and Brytons and wouldn't go back.
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I'm sorry.. it's cheap in the context of a mobile phone which is multi purpose..
Phone, internet, googlemaps, watch movies. It's quad core with a HD screen so it's good value at £200 new when you consider that flagship models which are smaller than this and similar specs are £500+.
as a phone it's big but it stil fits in my jeans pocket and coat. I use it as a car satnav as well.


For the real techno geeks - Get youself to http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia- ... evelopment
Install a customized version of android and improve battery life and functionality :D
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Another tip fo android phone.. You can buy this for £2 - http://www.amazon.co.uk/5-2mm-Smart-But ... oid+button

it's a shortcut button for your headphone port. You can program it to do all kinds of useful things. Bikers could program it to (for example) - Screen On ->Googlemaps->GPS lock->wait 10seconds->screen off
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I'm in much the same position as Colin. I have an old etrex but I do struggle with it, though the battery time is superb. I need to replace my old phone and the secondhand smartphone price looks good. I thought that one Garmin advantage was that you do not have to pay for accessing satellite tracking whilst on the move. On a smart phone are you not eating up your MB allowance at great expense in order to be tracked or aquire live route info?
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On a smart phone are you not eating up your MB allowance at great expense in order to be tracked or acquire live route info?


NO. You can use offline maps so that tehre is no data transfer. GPS acquires its position separately from its data connection but can use the data connection to get a more rapid update based on distance from masts (a-gps).

The worst case scenario is to use google maps for navigation, that can burn through my battery in about 90 minutes. With offline maps I get about five hours with the screen on permanently at around 50% brightness.
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bigjim wrote:I'm in much the same position as Colin. I have an old etrex but I do struggle with it, though the battery time is superb. I need to replace my old phone and the secondhand smartphone price looks good. I thought that one Garmin advantage was that you do not have to pay for accessing satellite tracking whilst on the move. On a smart phone are you not eating up your MB allowance at great expense in order to be tracked or aquire live route info?


Brand NEW Moto G £150 or Moto E for £90. Both give you a fully featured non tied Android phone. As they were owned by Google bang up to date too.

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